Ride relocations- Demon Drop?

Well, I was doing some thinking and I came up with an idea.

They could make a roller coaster go through Soak City like Magnum, and have it intertwine with Magnum. It would be pretty cool if they could to this. There is some room back near the pretzel turn from what I can remember. If not, talking out a few campsites can't hurt for a great new coaster.

Another idea follows the Demon Drop concept. They could remove some of the parking behind it and put a coaster back there. The scenery wouldn't be great, but that's not everything.

My third idea was the Aquatic Stadium. Take that out, and it would house the station. The ride could be on part of the beach and go over past the Ship ride where there is some empty space.

My fourth idea is quite odd, but I think it would make a sweet ride. The sea wall things they have protecting the Marina. They could make those into solid, strong piers that you could put a coaster on. Imagine entering Cedar Point on a boat and having to go under a massive coaster to get inside. That would be awesome.

I still like my Wildcat/dorm idea the best. I think it would be the easiest because that building needs to be torn down anyways. I hear it's a dump.


kylepark said:
If CP was going to remove WWL for a new attraction for the 2005 season, they would have done it last off season. Taking an attraction down of that size doesn't happen over night. Just how Dogem was removed for TTD, Jungle Larry's Safari was cleared a couple seasons before PT, and the old Fronteir Lift for ID.

Well, the same sources that claim White Water Landing may be razed are also claiming that the next major coaster will be built in 2006, at the earliest. That would give them plenty of time to tear WWL down.

Pete's avatar
When I hear rumors of plans to put in a coaster in Frontier Town, I worry about what that will do to the atmosphere of Frontier Town.

Both the Mine Ride and White Water Landing are perfect for that area of the park. The car ride is a perfect compliment to the town square area, removing the cars would really change things, and not for the better in my opinion.

I suppose it's possible to theme a modern steel coaster to fit in, but something that is tall and sprawling, not to mention noisy, would ruin the atmosphere in Frontier Town. *** Edited 7/23/2004 7:20:53 PM UTC by Pete***


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than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.


Pete said:
When I hear rumors of plans to put in a coaster in Frontier Town, I worry about what that will do to the atmosphere of Frontier Town.

Both the Mine Ride and White Water Landing are perfect for that area of the park. The car ride is a perfect compliment to the town square area, removing the cars would really change things, and not for the better in my opinion.
*** Edited 7/23/2004 7:20:53 PM UTC by Pete***


I also have issues with adding a B&M Flyer in Frontier Town, as it would definitely damage the atmosphere back there. However, I wouldn't mind seeing White Water Landing replaced by a newer ride as long as it is appropiate for that location. As for Cedar Creek Mine Ride, it has the right look and functions as a good starter coaster for the kids.


JuggaLotus said:
Although I'm sure CP would make sure whatevers next fits the part of the park it goes into.

Just like Millennium Force mixes in with Frontier Trail.

But I do agree with you, JuggaLotus, on the Mine Ride. And for as old as Cedar Point is, I've always been disappointed that their oldest coaster is only 40. They need to keep some "classics" around.

I'm intriqued by this moving the Demon Drop concept. If you build into the parking lot a bit, you could have yourself a nice ride. But if you move DD, there aren't too many spots in the park where it's size wouldn't be diminished by taller rides, and placing it in Frontiertown would be a thematical travesty (unless they go all out and retheme it - old mine shaft perhaps?) Eh, I wouldn't really want to see that.

I still don't understand why they don't go and build into half the parking lot, and build a giant three story garage on the remaining lot. They'd get more space AND more parking spots. *** Edited 7/23/2004 7:31:39 PM UTC by CoasterGuy78***


Any similarity in name is purely coincidental.

I wouldn't mind seeing Frontier town turn into something along the lines of SF: MW's zoo section of the park. (minus the animals) If anyone is familiar with that area it has a few animal cages/habitats but some really cool Huss flats as well as some others. Frontier town could use 4-5 good flats. It adds thrill to that section of the park, but does not ruin the theme and create a lot of noise. I know Huss is really good at theming rides, and a Old western theme would be easy for them.

As for the Demon Drop idea...

http://www.pointbuzz.com/Gallery.aspx?i=671

In this picture you can see if you relocate DD, and maybe 1 other building, you can have a pretty big area to build something. The basketball hoops you see in that pic. aren't even there anymore. Relocating a building is an easy task, I think, because it doesn't require a whole lot of room and you can pretty much put in anywhere. (Even off-site if you have to.)

I don't even think that the picnic area beside DD is even necessary, and that takes up a lot of room.


CoasterGuy78 said:
But if you move DD, there aren't too many spots in the park where it's size wouldn't be diminished by taller rides, and placing it in Frontiertown would be a thematical travesty (unless they go all out and retheme it - old mine shaft perhaps?) Eh, I wouldn't really want to see that.

I think that DD would fit easilly into Frontier Town. If you look at it, it doesn't look too modern, and if you changed the color, it would look real nice back there.

Also, what would be wrong with the old mine shaft?

liebevision's avatar
that picnic area by demon drop IS necessary... but not to guests. It's the demon drop break area where employees in that area of the park take their breaks. wherever you find a little blue tent tucked way back, that's a break area. I'll give cedar point credit, they do an awesome job of hiding them from the midways. if you really, really, look for them, I'm sure you could find them. but you have to be looking. The normal guest wouldn't notice them.

unless you mean the one behind the bathrooms, but you still need the bathrooms at the front of the park. *** Edited 7/27/2004 6:47:55 PM UTC by liebevision***


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Call me old-fasioned (I do), but I am partial to the current location of Demon Drop. It's the first thing everyone passes in the rush to TTD or MF, and it's been greeting guests there for 21 years.

Simply placing it Frontiertown would show a severe lack of effort on CP's part. You do have a point - it doesn't look too modern anymore, and a simple paint job to a more earthy color would easily make it blend in. I'm just saying that moving the ride as-is to Frontiertown would not work for me, and I would miss DD as-is if they rethemed it.

Then again, I should be happy if moving DD is the worst that happens. I enjoy that ride more than Power Tower (I'm sure I'm a minority there), so if a name/paint/theme/location change is what it takes to keep the ride there, I'm happy!


Any similarity in name is purely coincidental.

Here's my thoughts. I would care less if White Water Landing was removed, there are already 2 other water rides. If the Swan Boats were removed fro future construction dont you think they hould have started by now. I mean the boats have been gone for a while and im sure they can be removed over night so why so early. Also, i think they should add more parking like a garage somewhere off to the side of that LONG CAUSEWAY and have a shuttle or tram running back and forth to transport people. Don't move the demon drop it looks great, moving it anywhere else would cause it to look small and pointless. Thats it for now!

I want to ride a rollercaster NAKED!!

Move Wildcat, reroute the perimeter road, tear down the dorms adjacent to Wildcat and you have a good chunk of land for a compact coaster...work around or tear down the old IMAX theater and move Dodgem, and you have a large plot of land for a coaster.

Check it out: http://said.uc.edu/students/oakleysd/cp/CP.jpg

Funny thing about that link...I graduated over a year ago and they still haven't deleted my account...i can still log in! Univ. of Cincy's IT department is very...uh...dumb, *** Edited 7/23/2004 11:34:02 PM UTC by Seth Oakley***


--Seth

The area that Thunder Canyon lies in is of interest to me. I have seen the boats sitting out there falling apart and the last time I rode the ride there was nothing exciting about it. It's almost as if some more theming should have been there. Weren't there lots of waterfalls or something to get you wet before?
From a business standpoint I would say that ride has seen it's better days and the land it sits on is a good area for something better. Cedar Point is showing no interest in fixing the ride up and it's slowly going downhill so my guess would be that the next attraction would fit perfectly in there. When I ride the train it's an eyesore to see all the weeds and broken boats out there.
I remember the days when I was young and the wait for that ride was 2 hours or more. I haven't been there on a hot busy day lately, how is the wait now? Is this still a favorite ride?

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Scott's avatar
I think that it'd be a good idea to raze the old Frontier Lift station next to CCMR and make it a station point for a new coaster. The ride could go towards the lagoon, island and maybe interact with CCMR a little bit. Making some new restrooms and moving the storage shouldn't be too big of a deal.
kylepark's avatar
Maybe dismantle Sky Ride and construct a coaster running down the center of the main midway?

- Uncle Jay

Holy crap! I just got a great idea!

A station could be well hidden within Frontier Trail if they did it properly.

There is plenty of room on the island where part of MF is located. Another coaster could easily be placed there. It would add more of a thrill to MF. Intertwining coasters is something that CP has never done before. I think it would be a great location for a new ride.

Holy crap! No.
I definitely don't want Sky Ride dismantled. It saves me a lot of walking. I like rathofdoom's idea though, if they could pull it off. It would be cool to have a flier intertwined with MF.

kylepark's avatar
Then maybe level off the entire park and build the tallest, largest, longest, fastest coaster in the unviverse!

Come on, is it really the end of the world if CP doesn't build #17 soon enough?


- Uncle Jay

It's amazing how many people think CP would get rid of the "lagoon" the swan boats used. Call me crazy, but I think that pond adds alot of character to that part of the park. Now, considering CP's recent track record, I suppose it's days may be numbered, but I still have faith it will remain. Also, I believe if any coaster's days are numbered at CP, it's Disaster Transport. That's just my opinion. By the way, after joking about soaking Mean Streak in gasoline and lighting a match, my buddy and I discovered the main gas line that runs directly under Mean Streak last week! Coinsidence? hmmm...oh the possibilities. How about the next 4th of July, we all gather round and have ourselves a giant bon fire! (seriously, this is not ment as a MS bashing thread. I happen to enjoy the ride 2 out of 4 times.)
kylepark's avatar
Is it possible for Intamin to use their wooden coaster technology to re-track MS?

- Uncle Jay

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