questions for employees

I had to tell my area supervisor that my TL was breaking seasonal fratinization policies.

I take back anything nasty I've ever said or implied about you Jes. You're ok in my book.

Now if only the park would enforce this. It makes no sense to tell supervisors that they can not date people under them, but when it happens they do nothing about it and allow a good crew member to quit.

It's a sad thing to say, but alot of the kids who work there don't have the professionalism to seperate work and play when they are dating someone under them or even on the same crew.

This, for the most part, wasn't a problem when we had the 'same sex' crews, but times change. I just wish that the park would enforce a "no inter-crew dating" policy and stick with it.
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June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100
VertiGo Rides - 82
*** This post was edited by Red Garter Rob 2/25/2004 2:10:26 PM ***

Excuse me, but I dated someone on my crew (we were both red tags) and no one even knew about it for almost a month. Our sups didn't even know about it, and when they found out, they were toally shocked and said that we kept things really professional. I can understand a policy on not being able to date someone who is under you (ie. Blue tag and a red tag), but come on, "no inter-crew dating," that's a little extreme. If employees can't handle it, they will either separate themselves or their TL will separate them and send them to other rides. It's really not that big of a deal. You can't exactly tell someone they can't date another person who is of the exact same "rank" as they are. Unless Cedar Point becomes "Abstinence Point." :)

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'02 Merchandise
'03 Thunder Canyon
'04 Gemini

The problem is the majority can't , and have proven in the past by the sheer amount of drama caused, handle the situation. Even if they are on the same "rank" as you put it.

It's a case of majority rules and from a professional and bussiness standpoint when dealing with the emotional level of alot of these people, it makes sense.

As for the "same crew", ok I can give a little on that one as long as it doesn't effect the safety and working environment. A TL/ATL or supervisor (dating someone in thier zone or area) I think is a different story.

It's happened in the past. Leadership dates someone, suddenly, that someone gets perfered treatment when it comes to schedules and other things.

Much drama results... Drama that is not needed.

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June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100
VertiGo Rides - 82

One of the problems we had is that, everyone knew my TL was dating a team-member, and regardless of whether he did or did not give preferencial treatment, the other employees felt like he was. I personally didn't see that happening, but it doesn't matter much... it's just like harasement... doesn't matter if you meant it, but rather if the person felt it. I can't stress the importance of a good work place "facade" (if you will) enough to new people who have never had a job. Team relations are essential to getting any work done at all.

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Jes
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Six Flags Worlds Of Adventure Ride-Ops Crew 2002-2003!
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*** This post was edited by Zero-G 2/25/2004 4:43:00 PM ***

Last season they had all leadership (including sups.) sign a paper (including the point system just for leadership for turing in wrong or undone paper work etc) basically saying "no dating within the crew/area for sups"..

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Park Services 98'
Snake River 99'00'
Peanuts ATL 01'
GW/SS/Schwab TL 02'
Kiddy Kingdom TL 03'
Snake River Falls TL 04'
*** This post was edited by coasterchick 2/25/2004 4:45:39 PM ***

See that is a good idea. As long as I can still date whoever I want, they can do whatever they like! I'm just a red tag and thats the way I like it! :)

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'02 Merchandise
'03 Thunder Canyon
'04 Gemini

.. just wait.. it'll happen.. an incident will happen with two red tags that will result in serious issues.

You can sit there and say they have no right to say who and who you can't see, but by signing your contract, you agree to obey all rules and regulations.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Same sex crews was one of the best ideas ever used.

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June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100
VertiGo Rides - 82
*** This post was edited by Red Garter Rob 2/25/2004 5:28:23 PM ***

OK, I just have to say something here. Since the very beginning of last May, Tammy (my TL last year) and I started dating. There was no probelms between us, not anything at all, no favortism, nothing. We kept our personal life out of work. As proof of that, Tammy is the Asst. Sup in zone 3 and yep, they placed me @ Dragster in leadership knowing that we are dating. There is nothing wrong with intercrew dating, it's all in the people involved. People that date and have 'drama' just need to grow the hell up and quit their high school antics.

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'04 ATL Top Thrill Dragster
'03 WT crew/ATL Sky Ride
'02 WT crew

.. but that's my point.. Why have leadership sign a piece of paper that says it's not allowed, yet not do anything about it when it ends up causing issues.

I'm sure you recall an incident involving someone in leadership, someone on a ride crew (which happened to be in the zone they were in charge of) and the resulting drama.

Either enforce it all the time or don't have them sign it at all be prepared for the results.

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June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100
VertiGo Rides - 82
*** This post was edited by Red Garter Rob 2/25/2004 6:01:31 PM ***

Red Garter Rob said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Same sex crews was one of the best ideas ever used.

LOL Does that even work anymore? They've just got done saying in other threads about how many people are gay at the point. just wondering. :)

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2004 Power Tower Crew

Same sex crews? Red Garter Rob, How old are you, like 85? And anyway, why do you care? Where do you work at CP?

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'02 Merchandise
'03 Thunder Canyon
'04 Gemini

The ride crews used to be the same sex. You know like Raptor was guys, Mantis was all girls working it..and so on. They changed to to mixed in 99'. RGR isn't even close to being that old..lol..

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Park Services 98'
Snake River 99'00'
Peanuts ATL 01'
GW/SS/Schwab TL 02'
Kiddy Kingdom TL 03'
Snake River Falls TL 04'
*** This post was edited by coasterchick 2/25/2004 7:23:57 PM ***

Im sure he isn't. i just think that it is old fashioned sexist thinking. It's something my great grandfather would argue about. lol

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'02 Merchandise
'03 Thunder Canyon
'04 Gemini

I have found that even red tage dating on the same crew has been pure crazyness. Especially if one of them becomes third in charge. I know some has worked out to the point where everything was fine. It doesn't always happen that way everytime. Last season I had to have one of the crew members that was dating another on the crew transfered off the ride. It was pure drama for the entire crew.

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Park Services 98'
Snake River 99'00'
Peanuts ATL 01'
GW/SS/Schwab TL 02'
Kiddy Kingdom TL 03'
Snake River Falls TL 04'

I'm just saying, even with the alternative lifestyle percentages that CP has, there were not nearly the amount of problems. My appreciation of it has nothing to do with my age but more from a professional bussiness standpoint.

Not really gonna say where I work because I go back on Monday but it shouldn't take much detective work to figure out where I work.

I know who you are.. ;)

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June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100
VertiGo Rides - 82
*** This post was edited by Red Garter Rob 2/25/2004 8:06:33 PM ***

First of all the Statement of Understanding didn't say we couldn't date employees on the crew or in the area.. it said we are to notify management if this situation arises, so.. if need be.. the person can be moved to another crew or area. Second.. they can't really tell us we cannot date people on the same level (i.e. red tag & red tag). Walmart lost a huge lawsuit recently where they fired two employees, for dating, who were at the same level in the company (They were cashiers, so it's not like they were managers or anything like that)... 3rd.. Rob.. everyone knows where you work... even the marketing managers who read this page everyday

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Without Environmental Services Cedar Point would be a dirty park!

Ohh I know they do..

.. as does my boss and my VP.

I'm just stating my opinion on the current topic and situation.. hehehe

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June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100
VertiGo Rides - 82
*** This post was edited by Red Garter Rob 2/25/2004 8:57:41 PM ***

I dated someone in my department but who worked in a different camp. I liked it that way cause even though we were in the same department we did not see each other at work. It made life easier at work. I did run into him every once in a while but it was not very often. I think it is hard to date someone you work with though because it tends to create problems. He then worked in a different part of food service and i never saw him at work. I think it depends on the people and the situation

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PT Wagons 02, 03,

I don't know...I think I am going to have to agree with Rob that, from a purely business standpoint, crews operate more efficiently when they are single-sex. Have you ever seen some of the rampant flirting and horseplay that occurs on the platform between crewmembers of opposite sex at some of the other major parks? I doubt those in charge at CP would ever let it get to that point, but it does show what co-ed crews can ultimately lead to.

But, on the other hand, would I personally rather have girls on my crew with me? Hell yes.

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-James
2003 Ride Maintenance
2004 Millennium Force Crew

At a certain other park in the area I actually saw crew members kiss each other on the platform.

I was in total shock..

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June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100
VertiGo Rides - 82