off duty ride op and line jumping

Which is unfortunate is some cases. But, hey, if they want to keep on getting rid of employees for flipant reasons, that isn't something I'll worry too much about, until it starts showing in the quality of the ride crews.

How exactly did he line jump?

If you were already in the station towards another seat, and the back seat line was open, then it was fair game. Even if he was behind you in line, once you're let into the station and start going for one seat, the others are open to whoever comes in the station after you.

If you weren't heading toward another seat, and headed straight for the back seat but he hopped over, or ducked between the rails and cut you off, then that's a load of crap.

The ride crews are doing fine, and it probably has something to do with knowing that if they mess up, their asses will be shown the door.

BlueStreak64 said:
Which is unfortunate is some cases. But, hey, if they want to keep on getting rid of employees for flipant reasons, that isn't something I'll worry too much about, until it starts showing in the quality of the ride crews.

I agree... but some parts of staffing have certainly already taken a toll.

*** Edited 7/20/2006 4:51:52 AM UTC by DBCP***

MichiganStateFan said:Don't be a soccer mom and report people (as known as taddle on people what I don't bealive in) its just not cool.

Line jumping and abusing your position as an employee is ever more "uncool" as you put it. The fact that you feel he "deserves" something because he has a tough job is just mind boggling to me too. That's like saying police officers should be able to drive 120 mph whenever they want because they have a tough job and should be able to get away with what they want.

What employees "deserve" is not the right to line jump, but rather a half decent pay.

e x i t english said:
How exactly did he line jump?

I would also like clarification. While I in absolutely no way what so ever condone line jumping, how exactly did this guy 'line jump' if the line for the back seat was empty when you went through the turn-style? You almost exit the turn-style into the line for the back seat, so I'm confused on how this guy somehow snuck past you in the process of going through the turn-style to get the back seat before you.

^Very true. I'm getting paid approximately $7.25 an hour interning with my music pastor at church right now. Just as much as the pay plus the bonus at CP, and I know this internship isn't even close to being as hard as working at the park. *** Edited 7/20/2006 5:15:49 AM UTC by BlueStreak64***

halltd said:

Line jumping and abusing your position as an employee is ever more "uncool" as you put it. The fact that you feel he "deserves" something because he has a tough job is just mind boggling to me too. That's like saying police officers should be able to drive 120 mph whenever they want because they have a tough job and should be able to get away with what they want.

halltd do you work? Line jumping may be abusing your position, but come on do we have to make a big deal about it. Don't cops speed all of the time when they are not chasing anyone anyways? Do you work in retail? Where you have 100's of customers/riders etc... around you every day come up to and can't find something even though it is right in front of their faces. Do you know how frustrating it is for an employee to stop what they are doing right away and help them because there's a product they can't find when it is right the in front of them. Do you know how hard an employee has it when they work at a non slarey job 40-50 hours a week. When a customer looks at you and they judge and think your stupid or something just because you don't work in a job that has a slarey . The guy is an employee at the park, he deserves certain benefits just like everyone at their own jobs should, that customers, riders, etc.. should not get!!! Lets say your kid, or someone in your family did the same thing, would you want someone (soccer mom) to report (aka taddle) on him.

e x i t english said:
How exactly did he line jump?

If you were already in the station towards another seat, and the back seat line was open, then it was fair game. Even if he was behind you in line, once you're let into the station and start going for one seat, the others are open to whoever comes in the station after you.

If you weren't heading toward another seat, and headed straight for the back seat but he hopped over, or ducked between the rails and cut you off, then that's a load of crap.

This is exactly what I was thinking. There isn't much room at the turn style to jump if I remember right?

But as a former employee, sorry we don't get to break rules off duty and I don't care how many hours someone works. And any REAL employee will tell you that.
*** Edited 7/20/2006 7:21:46 AM UTC by 901liveson***

MichiganStateFan said:

halltd said:

Line jumping and abusing your position as an employee is ever more "uncool" as you put it. The fact that you feel he "deserves" something because he has a tough job is just mind boggling to me too. That's like saying police officers should be able to drive 120 mph whenever they want because they have a tough job and should be able to get away with what they want.

halltd do you work? Line jumping may be abusing your position, but come on do we have to make a big deal about it. Don't cops speed all of the time when they are not chasing anyone anyways? Do you work in retail? Where you have 100's of customers/riders etc... around you every day come up to and can't find something even though it is right in front of their faces. Do you know how frustrating it is for an employee to stop what they are doing right away and help them because there's a product they can't find when it is right the in front of them. Do you know how hard an employee has it when they work at a non slarey job 40-50 hours a week. When a customer looks at you and they judge and think your stupid or something just because you don't work in a job that has a slarey . The guy is an employee at the park, he deserves certain benefits just like everyone at their own jobs should, that customers, riders, etc.. should not get!!! Lets say your kid, or someone in your family did the same thing, would you want someone (soccer mom) to report (aka taddle) on him.

Obviously, this guy is the "employee line jumper" ;)

Yes, if my children or someone in my family line jumped and didn't follow the rules i would expect them to get in trouble.

Generally employees get their own time to ride...and on their off days they get entrance to the park. They get to ride the rides probably more than some of the customers there. For example, I don't get to the park more than once or twice a year and would like my chance to get on the rides in a timely manner. I don't think employees should get the right to just jump in front of someone such as myself and my family just because "they work there". Stand in line just like the rest of the customers!

BTW....I know quite a few soccer mom's and they don't run and "tattle" as you would call it.

yea..its spelled 'tattle' not taddle...duh. ;)

I've seen this happen at MF a few times. There was a group of CP employees that would just walk on up the exit or walk all of the way through thte cue. It's bad business! Try to explain to all of the people ahead of them in that line that they're employees. They won't care who they are! All that they know is that some group is blatently cutting in line and acting foolish.

I don't buy MichiganStateFan's explanation one bit. I'm one of those salaried workers but in retail. I help those customers find items because it's my job to help the customer. I'm paid to assist the customer. I've rarely been treated as though I'm "stupid" because I respect the customer and they respect me. Act foolish to the customer and they'll treat you like a fool. It's called a solid, professional work ethic...something that's horribly lacking today.

Employees, while out of uniform and off of the clock, are to be considered paying customers. They should be treated as such BUT get absolutely NO special rights!

Actually, any employee worth anything would want to be held to a higher standard than the customer - whether or not they're on the clock.

For instance, during college I worked at Pizza Hut and I would sometimes order food for carry-out while I was not working. When picking up the food, I was ALWAYS placing myself "underneath" the customers, so to speak. If I were waiting behind someone at the counter and another customer came into the store, I would happily give up my spot in line so that they could get their food more quickly. Its just good for business, and anything that's good for business is good for job security.

If I were a manager of a retail or service crew, I would most definitely want to know if an employee were acting with such disregard to the customers. Whether or not the person was on the clock at the time is completely irrelevant. If he was, in fact, line-jumping you have an obligation to report him, in my opinion.

*** Edited 7/20/2006 11:07:06 AM UTC by djDaemon***

If it was line-jumping. I have to agree with Exit on this. If you both went go through the turnstile, and he beat you to the entrance to the back seat queue, that's not jumping, thats just moving faster. If he ducked in front of you or bypassed the queue, then that is line-jumping.

And is anyone else feeling less and less like an MSU fan (or possibly embarrassed to be an MSU fan) every time MSF types something?

I agree 100% with dj. Also, if you break a rule, you break a rule. It doesn't matter who you are.

MichiganStateFan said:
He may be but you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. Really did it hurt you in anyway shape or form that he jumped in line. Uh oh!!! he did a big no no by the so called Cedar Point rules but really did it hurt anyone? You still got to ride, and you just had to wait an extra 5 minutes so. Really did it hurt you? I can't bealive some people, how selfish some people are. A person works all day for you basically for you to have fun and you don't give the sympathy, to have an employee who works his but off all day for you guys at Cedar Point to go ahead of you in line. Do you guys know what it feels like dealing with the genral public?

Don't be a soccer mom and report people (as known as taddle on people what I don't bealive in) its just not cool.
*** Edited 7/20/2006 3:40:10 AM UTC by MichiganStateFan***

First - Yes I do know what it's like to deal with the public on a daily basis.... I work for an ambulance service!!!! And not on a Salary!!!

Second - Just because the guy works there, it does NOT give him the right or privlige (spell check) to cut, jump or do anything else potentially stupid. I have worked at Six Flags in St. Louis and at Geauga Lake - before the take overs. If I were to do anything like this I would have and should have been fired.

Third - If one of my kids did something like this I most certainly would want them to get into trouble. It's called responsibilty... Something a lot of young adults know nothing about these days..!

Buy your logic since I'm not on a salary and work with the public I should be able to do what I want since no one will get hurt.... YEAH RIGHT!!!!!
*** Edited 7/20/2006 2:12:05 PM UTC by Screamin Eagle2***

When I worked CP last year, I thought of myself as setting an example for the other guests. Sure I knew ride ops by name, but that was as far as it went. When I was off to any other guest in the park thought the same. Except when we started chatting about the park. Then I let them know a few inside tips and facts about the rides and such.

Exactly! The employees have to "set an example". Just because they work at the park does NOT give them the right to line jump. And just like TerryFriel said, the employees get their own ride time. They even get a whole night of riding. So they don't need the "benefit" of cutting in line.

Like I said earlier, if I saw someone do that and I knew they were an employee, I would be thoroughly disgusted. That makes the park and its workers look really bad.

Thank you! That emploiyee should be fired for that stunt! if it was say, Witches wheel, that may have been different, bun om MF is downright DISGUSTING!!!