Not making it over the top(Something they could do about it)

Don't you think they could do something about it not rolling backwards? Like put some LIM's or something at the top? Then they wouldn't have to worry about it coming back and doing the whole cycle again.

I don't think it would work. LIM's could cause it to stop and roll back if they weren't retractable like the brakes on the launch. If they were retractable, by the time they got up in position there's probably not much they could do because once the train gets going backward (with momentum and gravity in its favor) the power from the LIMs probably wouldn't be enough to counteract the forces and push it over.

Just my thoughts

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instead of lim's they could put some of those tires up at the top and have them push the trains over

Thats exactly what I was thinking. LIM's don't make any sense but one of those tires would be a good solution. It would help the problem, not exactly fix it.

That sounds like a much better idea.

Right, but how fake would that feel? I mean, part of the thrill is that you're going fast enough to clear this whole monster hill. Why not just skip the launch, and put a vertical elevator cable on the tower? You'd still get 420' in the air, and hit 120mph on the drop, right into the brakes. Hell, it'd even make the ride longer having a lift instead of a launch. But again, that launch is what makes the ride. If it doesn't clear the tower, then you didn't get the ride experience and it SHOULD roll back and be relaunched. Tires, LIMs, or some He-Man standing at the top to pull short launched trains over the top cheapens the ride...

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Shane hit the nail on the head with that post.

I totally agree!

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Shane Denmark said:
Right, but how fake would that feel? I mean, part of the thrill is that you're going fast enough to clear this whole monster hill.

Excellent point. I personally love knowing that I might not make it over the hill. Wheels or anything that would accelerate the train over the hill would seem so fake.

I mean i want a rolle back. DO you know how hard it would to add any thing up there any way they how hard it would to power power up there and money all i say is just fix the ride. and give it a few years to break in.

I too totaly agree. TTD would lose its "nostalgia" in my opinion.

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man i want to get back there and ride it one more i have got on it one time 3 trys

Tires, LIMs, or some He-Man standing at the top to pull short launched trains over the top cheapens the ride...

That's really funny! I agree with ya though, it would drain a lot of the anxiety of being perched at the top not sure if your about to head down forwards or backwords.

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Why are we even entertaining an idea so ridiculous? Why would they install completely expensive and unwieldy LIM motors at the top of a 420ft. tower to power a train that makes it over the hill more than half of the time? Rollbacks are quite an inconvience, but if the ride needed an extra boost it would have been engineered that way in the first place. The train is supposed to go over the hill at a precise speed, it's not gonna hit it perfectly every time.

Well, Freak, if you'd read the thread you'd see that we AREN'T entertaining such a "ridiculous" idea. In fact, it's already been debunked, and people were just commenting that they agree...

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Well if you think about it, the spinning tire at the top would do some good. Just think about it. Every time there is a rollback you have to wait extra time for your turn to ride. Why not *improve* the ride by making it do what it was originally suposed to do, Launch; Go up; and Go down? I just don't get it.

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Yea and it would sound real nice to hear schreeching rubber as we go over the apex. Let alone from the fact that the tire in all reality would probaly slow the train down if it wasn't moving at the exact speed the train is. They don't need. Rollbacks aren't that frequent.

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Craig the Coaster Freak said: if the ride needed an extra boost it would have been engineered that way in the first place.

Exactly. If they wanted to, they would of already. And even if they wanted to,they would obviously have to bring in those 480 ft tall crane's to take the top section of track off, and exactly where are they going to place them (keep in mind that those things are BIG). In mind it's a good idea (I've even thought of something too), but it would be expensive and a waste. Dragster is perfect just they way it is........except for just a few problems. :) *** Edited 7/15/2004 3:34:55 AM UTC by TTD 120mph***

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TTD 120mph said:
except for just a few problems. :)

Yep, just a few;)

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Will_1205 said:
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Let alone from the fact that the tire in all reality would probaly slow the train down if it wasn't moving at the exact speed the train is. They don't need. Rollbacks aren't that frequent.

Regarding the tires slowing the train down, thats true. Just make sure the tires are spinning fast enough to get it over the top. Its not like the thing usually flies over the top anyway. I saw 2 rollbacks in one day and I wasn't even in the line. And one took about 30 minutes to reset. The bottom line is if they're not supposed to happen, why not try to fix the problem? Personally, I'd rather have just about anything that got this ride's reliability up to a level where I could, get this, expect to ride it on any given trip. Not that I wouldn't like the bragging right associated with being on a rollback..Oh wait, I already rode Superman: The Escape. Regarding the "cheapening of the ride" through tires, lets face it. The only thing that makes this ride good is the launch. You can't even appreciate the drop with all that crazy spinning going on. If you got launched fast enough to get close enough for tires to kick you over, you got your money's worth. *** Edited 7/20/2004 11:58:14 PM UTC by RockDown2G***

RockDown2G said:
Regarding the "cheapening of the ride" through tires, lets face it. The only thing that makes this ride good is the launch. You can't even appreciate the drop with all that crazy spinning going on.

Are you serious? I agree that the launch is the best part of the ride but to say you cannot appreciate the drop because of all the "spinning" going on is absurd. The 270* twist gives the feeling of complete freefall. Personally, I think the twist is much better than going straight down (after riding Storm Runner).

Now, let's stop and imagine there are tires at the top of the hill that catch the train and pull it over the hill...What happens if the train barely makes it up the hill (which happens on some of the rollbacks). Just imagine the feeling of slowly creeping up the hill and just as you are about to stop and go back down, the tires catch you and pull you over. That would feel so cheap and would take away from the thrill of making it over the hill.