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They've put up plenty of deterrents. Multiple signs. Removing map data from Google navigation. Etc.

Still, the fastest exit is the causeway, easily, but I have been directed to exit down the chausse when the park was very busy. As I typically park in the back, leaving that way is more trouble than it's worth.

I believe Cedar Fair owns the entire peninsula. The residents own the structures but not the land they sit on. They have long terms leases with Cedar Fair. Something like 99 years. This is from a friend who used to live on the chausee,

Bluestreaker said:

I believe Cedar Fair owns the entire peninsula. The residents own the structures but not the land they sit on. They have long terms leases with Cedar Fair. Something like 99 years. This is from a friend who used to live on the chausee,

Cedar Fair doesn't own the properties along the chausee, at least not the dozen or so I checked. They do own the chausee though, so they could tell the homeowners to pound salt.

Interestingly enough, the causeway is owned by the Cedar Fair subsidiary Magnum Management Corporation.

I hardly took the Causeway, only when I went to Shores on the way home. I was always too annoyed that I couldn't figure out a way on the Chausee to notice if it was quicker.

But I never had issues certainly with exiting the park of dealing with traffic on the Chausee. Even turning left onto Cleveland Rd was never bad, might have been one day it took awhile, that's it. I always leave after close which might help too.

When I arrive to the park, a tad different depending on if I arrived for early entry or not, never waited as far back as the curve though. Of course I never really went on a really high capacity day.

But yeah if it becomes Causeway only, it could definitely use an expansion to 6 lanes. But as others mentioned, the Chausee still has to be ready for high traffic as an alternate in case of any emergency situation.

There would be no pounding of the salt.
Easements, whether written or not, would be at the least implied after seven years of permitted access.

Shades said:

If that is the case why do the residents have a say in who can use the road?

Because they pay taxes.

If it's a private road taxes don't matter. If the residents get angry enough since they likely have some sort of legal easement they could take the matter to court. I'm guessing that the park would gain something from restricted access on the chausee also since there would be a way for employees to come in without waiting in traffic. My lemon chill person also said the park is looking in to or in talks with the government agencies that they would need to get permission from to widen the causeway but there is nothing definite yet.

Someone mentioned the deterrents they have introduced to using the chausee. Another deterrent they utilized is leaving pot-holes for quite some time before repair.

You know, even though I am one who has used that road almost exclusively over the years I am beginning to understand the potential decision and empathize with the residents. I've seen some close calls with pedestrians, as well as contractors. It is worrisome to see a close call with a little old lady doing some landscaping or some kids darting across to the lakeside or back. I've seen excessive speed from vehicles, swerving from pot-holes or standing water or trying to pass cyclists etc... The road is narrow and will stay narrow.

Even if they semi restrict traffic they probably will still utilize it for events like marathon or bike ride. Bottom line for me is that causeway is likely 3 minutes quicker and like anything they change at CP, I will adapt. I will miss the scenery of that direction, my wife & sis in-law like snapping pictures of the wetlands & birds.

Paisley said:

If it's a private road taxes don't matter.

But they still pay property taxes, right? Shouldn't that give them a say in what happens around their property?

Regardless, should the road being private really matter? Should the residents really have to litigate the issue? If CF's guests cannot be decent neighbors, then perhaps the park itself should be a decent neighbor and limit access to residents.

At the same time, if the residents are paying taxes to the city of Sandusky for their property, but the road is owned by Cedar Point, then Cedar Point has no obligation to the residents.

That would indeed be anothe rbenefit, if they restricted public access, it would wise to at least allow employees to travel through it so they can bypass Causeway traffic, would especially help on congested days.

Still though, I hope the Chausee remains open and it remains open I'll continue taking it as long as I can.

ImpulsivePhoenix said:

Still though, I hope the Chausee remains open and it remains open I'll continue taking it as long as I can.

And that is why the Chausee may be closed to the public.

djDaemon said:

Paisley said:

If it's a private road taxes don't matter.

But they still pay property taxes, right? Shouldn't that give them a say in what happens around their property?

Regardless, should the road being private really matter? Should the residents really have to litigate the issue? If CF's guests cannot be decent neighbors, then perhaps the park itself should be a decent neighbor and limit access to residents.

If the road is privately owned I doubt the city really has much obligation to do anything they don't want to. This is another one of those things that you should find out about a property you are about to spend half a million on just like HOA rules. If the road to your property is private you need to be aware of the conditions of the easements and who is responsible for what and what you do and don't have control over and be OK with that before you put a bid in. I have family that used to live on a private road and they were completely responsible for maintenance, plowing everything. In order for them and the neighbors to get any of these services they had to deed the property over to the county or township to make it a public road. Before this happened some time over the last 10 years or so every one who lived there or visited family there frequently either owned a 4 wheel drive vehicle or had to park at the bottom of the hill and hike up.

jimmyburke said:

... I am beginning to ... empathize with the residents. I've seen some close calls with pedestrians, as well as contractors. It is worrisome to see a close call with a little old lady doing some landscaping or some kids darting across to the lakeside or back. I've seen excessive speed from vehicles, swerving from pot-holes or standing water or trying to pass cyclists etc...

With the exception of the lake reference you just described an incredibly large number of public roads. Are you saying that we shouldn't be allowed to drive on those roads either?

djDaemon said:?

Regardless, should the road being private really matter? Should the residents really have to litigate the issue? If CF's guests cannot be decent neighbors, then perhaps the park itself should be a decent neighbor and limit access to residents.

Exactly. Cedar Point may not have a legal obligation to do anything, but they certainly have a relationship with those neighbors.

And Shades, do we know whether those roads are public or private? I don't.

But if it does get closed to the public, no worries; I'm sure someone will fly their drones over the houses so we can all keep exercising our rights.

You don't know that the road you drive on to get to work is public? Or are you saying that the public roads that you drive on don't have pot holes, cars that are speeding, bicyclists, pedestrians, kids playing ball in the front yard, or little old ladies planting flowers at the mailbox at the edge of the road?

Interesting conversation.

Chausee residents complaining about traffic reminds me of folks who buy homes close to O'Hare International Airport, and then complain that there airplanes flying overhead. They knew, or should have known, what they were buying into.

Cedar Point did build the Chausee. (At one point, having driven over the road to the park you could park inside a coaster structure; the Cyclone, I believe, but don't quote me, and I'm too lazy at the moment to look that up.) Based on what's been said here, and until proven otherwise, I'm willing to believe the road is still company owned.

noggin said:

Chausee residents complaining about traffic reminds me of folks who buy homes close to O'Hare International Airport, and then complain that there airplanes flying overhead. They knew, or should have known, what they were buying into.

This assumes that there has always been a lot of CP traffic going down that road. There has long been an amusement park nearby, but it stands to reason more people know about and use the Chausee today than was the case, say, in the 1990's.

Plus, it's not as if residents are complaining about the noisy park nearby. They're complaining that CP's guests are using a residential two lane road to reach the park, when there is an alternative direct route with more than double the capacity. In other words, they're not trying to shut the park down. They're just asking the park to be a decent neighbor.

^Plus people drive down it like lunatics treating it like Route 6...

Go slow, enjoy the trees, the crazy little "houses" built on the lakefront strip, and then the houses with boat garages on the bay side

Soon....

Shades said:
You don't know that the road you drive on to get to work is public?

I'm only talking about the chausee and the roads between those homes; not the roads between Louisville and Alliance, Ohio.