NEWS FLASH!!!! Track and supports sighted

whootta whatta??


If more track does get there on the 16th, I'll start to believe you...

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LeWiS

When the announcment is made i'll still probably wont beleive you....even if it was all right, I'd feel a little stupid but i still wouldn't beleive you :)

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- Dennis

I wish i lived in ohio...New York City is so boring ;)

Jeff's avatar
Fart in a car.

Y'all regulars know what I'm talking about. Take a whiff...

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP, Sillynonsense.com
"Let's stop saying 'don't quote me,' because if no one quotes you, you probably haven't said a thing worth saying." - Dogma, KMFDM

Hahaha, I remember the classic "Taco Bell" comment...

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"Meh."
Wicked twists: 9
Danger: Hgih Voltage!

yeah, kristina, 'just got the total constructions plans.' cause construction firms LOVE to start projects with incomplete plans...especially something like a roller coaster. keep posting though, its entertaining!

I'll be your uncle was also the cameraman on Survivor: The Australian Outback, too, eh? (five dollars to anyone who got that...)

By the way, your 'uncle' is likely in violation of his contract, and probably will out of a job soon. Assuming, ahem, that you are right.
*** This post was edited by mk468zz 9/10/2002 7:48:14 AM ***


Let's just wait until the 16th. Here come the flames for kristina...again.
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Blue people fly sideways when it rains....
Greetings,

Just wanted to add another opinion.......

As I'm in the construction industry, my office releases major projects that are not completely designed frequently, especially large expensive ones. Granted, all the preliminary work is done, but specific engineering conditions still need to be finished. Typically, this is called "fast tracking" a job. It is done usually when a tight time line exists. It is also convenient for privacy.

I don't know who authorizes and approves the construction documents in Sandusky, but I suspect that it goes through the state. I've received partial plan approval for foundations before, put only with preliminary designs describing the entire scope of the project. I would have to believe that drawings have been submitted somewhere for approval.

Another thread mentioned that CP is working quickly pouring footers because of cold weather. This is almost surely untrue. Today's concrete additives are very good and strong. Contractors are able to pour in all but the most extreme conditions. Those new footers will take 21-28 days before reaching strength. Don't expect major steel to be erected for a month. It is possible that the lighter stuff will go up sooner, but no way will a 400' tower be trusted on uncured concrete. Several test cylinders of concrete will be broken to determine strength. Once it reaches the required safety margin, steel will go up.

Someone mentioned the dream of the ride going under the lagoon. Although a great idea, is it possible with a low water table? Apart from some utility tunnels for ride mechanics, does Cedar Point have any basements or tunnels?

In summary, don't be suprised if the "Uncle story" is correct. And, somebody might want to pay a visit to the the Sandusky building department looking for public information -or- call the State of Ohio to see if CP was on a building review committee agenda....
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DanB

You know its September 10th and we still have some great weather outside here in the midwest and east coast. Go outside and enjoy it, you will have all winter to stare at a computer screen, webcam and GTTP.

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Dan Haverlock
"who didn't see anything"
10 more laps until the count is officially retired


There is a half basement under the front hall of the original part of Breakers. You cannot stand up straight under there (unless you are 4 foot tall) so it doesn't go far into the ground.
Yes, DanB is exactly right. "Fast-tracking" is becoming common these days and some of the laws in Ohio facilitate it. Foundation permits can be issued without complete plans...as long as the foundation plans are complete, then the foundation can be built. It's likely that Janotta & Herner currently only have, (and need at this point), foundation plans for the new coaster.

While cold may be a factor in pouring concrete in Alaska, it's no problem in Northern Ohio. Concrete is designed for a curing time of 28 days. In other words, after 28 days, it will support the load it was designed to support. Curing is a chemical process that theoretically takes place forever, but empirical tests have shown that letting concrete cure for more than 28 days isn't really that much more beneficial.

The City of Sandusky handles all foundation, building, electrical, and occupancy permits. Plumbing, however, is handled at the state office in Toledo (though that could've changed recently) I guess maybe I'll stop in there, possibly due to work, and check on the status of Cedar Point's new ride.

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--Seth


In summary, don't be suprised if the "Uncle story" is correct.

I'll be surprised. And, I'll eat my own shoe if I'm wrong. I still do not beleive that this to a two-track coaster that 'doesn't duel or race.'

those Area 51 footers were poured a while ago...i think they are ready for anything heavy and big.

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- Dennis

I am just wondering, why would the park build one coaster with two tracks that doesnt race or duel or any of that stuff. Honestly, it sounds like a stupid idea to me.

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Turkeys, the only animal smarter than man

You know, I may sound really stupid now, but what does a two track coaster that doesn't duel or race do?! This confuses me...

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Nothing, because it doesn't exist...

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"Meh."
Wicked twists: 9
Danger: Hgih Voltage!

Ya know, before my browser errored, that's exactly what I was going to respond with. :)

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June 28th: LocoBazooka Tour (Sevendust headlining)
July 11th: Korn, Puddle of Mudd, and Deadsy

Kristina says there will be two tracks, one high and one fast. Of course, thats improbable because with height comes speed, and with speed comes height.
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Turkeys, the only animal smarter than man

raptor323 said:
Kristina says there will be two tracks, one high and one fast. Of course, thats improbable because with height comes speed, and with speed comes height.

Not to mention the fact that these two *separate* tracks don't duel and won't race, which of course makes absolutely no sense. And yet, some people continue to believe it.


raptor323 said:
Kristina says there will be two tracks, one high and one fast. Of course, thats improbable because with height comes speed, and with speed comes height.
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Well, that isn't necessarily true. With LIM technology, why must a coaster be high to be fast?

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