New Slack Policies

Well I don't believe anything on here after I thought this was true. So If I see this sign I will personally take a picture of it and send it to this topic. Since I take pictures up there anyway, I'd be glad to find out for sure if this rule is in fact in affect.

I am on the crew... I saw it for myself. I think I would know.

Millennium Force has a new seatbelt policy requiring 1/2 inch of black webbing showing for all riders. Top Thrill Dragster requires 1 inch of black webbing showing for all riders. Take it for what you want.

Mr. Scott, are we a little cranky today? First of all you are the one who brought up Dick Kinzel, not me. Second, I have never been fired, in my 40 years on this planet. Third, I have been in middle managment for the past 16 or so years. So in closing you were off on, lets see, all of your points. Now go get yourself a nice glass of warm milk and take a nap, maybe you won't be so cranky.

Now see, this is what I mean by the Higher ups not knowing the hell is going on. I talked to a Steve last night on the phone, he told me that MF and TTD is 1/2 inch of slack. So what is true, people who work on the ride or the higher ups??

Well, no matter what the manual says, no matter what the Boss says...it's the platform attendant on the 'front line' who has the final say in whether you get to ride or not. So the real issue is, what is the crew doing. What rule are they enforcing? Because THAT is the rule you have to live with when you go to ride.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

So Grady, you're saying you have no clue as to what is going on below you? Since you're middle management, you are a "higher-up" to someone, and you have no idea what that someone is doing. Sounds like bad management to me.

Well I don't know who to believe, but why would MF be a 1/2 inch and TTD still be an inch? There's hardly a difference, which brings me to the point that the whole rule is stupid. Everyone's arguing about 1/2 AN INCH OF BELT. If you think about it, it's a little ridiculous. 2 years of trauma all because of a little piece of seatbelt. As long as it's buckled, the person is just as safe as anyone else.

JuggaLotus,, my point being that, myself, I don't need to know every aspect of what is going on under me, and certainly not if it isn't under my direct controll. That would be micro managing, which is not recomended. In the case of the seat belt issue, the only people who really need to be concerned with it, from a manager point of view, would be the person in charge of ride safety, and the MF TL, ATL, and crew. And by the way, how about those Pistons. :}

But I would expect the policy makers (i.e. the higher ups) would know what the policy is. It is then up to the ops and TL's to enforce the policy. Sure Kinzel's not going to know every time an Op takes a break to take a dump, but I would think he'd know what policy would come in from Intamin.

Just remember kids.....Shaq is Whack.

That is a good point, but at the start of the thread MF_Man wondered why a crew member knew more than someone they talked to on the phone, who was a "higher up". My point is maybe she was a higher up in the lemon chill department, not ride safety, in which case she might not be up to speed on a new ride procedure.

oh of course. That wouldn't make any sense though for someone in foods to know what ride policy is on MF.

Thats what I am saying, just because they talked to a "higher up" on the phone, doesn't meen they are up to speed as much as a ride op would be on a specific matter such as this.

And why aren't you listening to the ATL and/or someone on the crew? We said that it had been changed to 1/2 inch of slack, so why is it so hard to comprehend that? Good God. We are the ones that check seat belts, not these "higher up" people that you speak of. Dragster is still 1 inch of slack, however.

Ballpoint, that is what I have been saying all along, listen to you guys because you know what is going on. Check back in the thread, I have been trying to defend that exact position.
*** Edited 6/7/2005 7:20:41 PM UTC by Grady***

All I can say is thank God. Maybe now the line will actually move! Now all they have to do is get rid of the slack rule altogether, since it doesn't make the ride any safer and serves no real purpose.

I am so happy they changed the slack rule, because last year I fit pretty good with 1/2 in. Trying to pull to 1 in was a little tough. But my question is: did they shorten the seat belts from last year? I have not gone on yet this year cuz I didn't want to struggle.

By the way 2 weeks ago the ride op had me pull 1 in of slack on TTD. I don't remember a rule last year.

Ok, so the slack rule has been changed. Did the idiot who managed to make the ride seat belt shorter than the test seat belt fix his little gem yet or is that problem still there?

Also, the slack rule on TTD is extremely inconsistent. I was told I needed 1 inch at the test seat but was asked for 2 at the platform (I managed to pull it, but a little consistency wouldn't hurt).

*** Edited 6/9/2005 5:07:21 PM UTC by CPMatt***

My friend was asked to pull the slack on the test seat on TTD but couldn't at the station, and was still allowed to ride. Which disappointed me cause I couldn't pull the slack in the test seat, and just assumed I wouldn't try at the station. My bad!!!

See, this is the kind of inconsistency I was talking about. Requests for different lengths of slack, varying lengths between test seat belts and ride seat belts.

This is all just a bunch of poor planning on the part of CP management and instead of actually doing something constructive like making sure all the belts are the same length or marking on the belt where the slack point is, they leave it up to the ride crews to make the final call and then deal with unruly guests who fit and get slack in the test seat and then fit and don't get enough slack on the ride or don't fit at all.