Mean Streak- Redone

Can't wait to ride Mean Streak. Gonna be there all weekend. Being a holiday weekend the park should be packed. I'd rather ride Mean Streak than stand in line all day. I've stated my opinion a few times about my love for wooden roller coasters. No need to rehash, you can look back in the thread. Any ways I don't think they have 2 or 3 acres of land fenced off and leveled so that they can focus on Mean Streak. I'd say that the next few years are going to be devoted to filling that empty space and a continued effort to update the rest of the park. It's my opinion that a dark ride and a dive coaster will be the next 2 or 3 years. That challenge park will be moved into the park to allow them to expand Soak City. A good possibility that coasters could be built that leave the parks gates as Magnum does. That wouldn't include removing attractions from the park. I also don't see Dinosaurs in the park 5 years from now.

It's my opinion that those who post about tearing down Mean Streak have bought into the idea that Cedar Point is out of room. I get that RMC has done some nice work in recent years. But I can't imagine that Cedar Point goal is to tear down as many as they build. I'd hope that they can expand without subtracting a record breaking wooden roller coaster from their list of attractions. Not every person is going to want to ride it. Without Mean Streak the park would be the steel coaster capital of the world. Not the Coaster Capital of the World.

In absolutely no way do I believe that CP is out of room. I believe that in their current state, they will be forced to be more creative(not that they weren't before). I just believe that if management thought Rougarou was a good idea, then it would be logical that they would believe an iron horsing of MS would be a good idea as well.

However, I am hearing reports that MS is running smoother than ever. Can anyone confirm this?

While Mean Streak did run smoother and slightly faster during the first half of the ride, a week ago, it is still very boring. A 165 foot tall ride with such a massive structure should never be described as such. Taking something and making it more fun to a larger audience is never a mistake if it's done correctly.
Judging by the reactions to New Texas Giant, Twisted Colossus and Wicked Cyclone, a rehab of MS by RMC, in my opinion, would actually draw people to CP. MS, in its current form, hasn't drawn a crowd in years.

CoasterCam said:

In absolutely no way do I believe that CP is out of room. I believe that in their current state, they will be forced to be more creative(not that they weren't before). I just believe that if management thought Rougarou was a good idea, then it would be logical that they would believe an iron horsing of MS would be a good idea as well.

However, I am hearing reports that MS is running smoother than ever. Can anyone confirm this?

Who care even if they are out of room? The park is big enough as is. It is OK to replace old and not so popular rides with new ones.

Depends. Are they replacing them with rides that are more popular? If, for example, STR had been built where WWL had been located, or MS had replaced Gemini I'm guessing the answer would be "No."

Between CP converting Mantis into Rougarou and Kentucky Kingdom being able to use RMC to convert one of their coasters, I can finally have serious hope of CP re-tracking Mean Streak. Crossing my fingers.

At the same time though, there's honestly no reason that CP should have to wind up looking like, say, Blackpool Pleasure Beach or the average Roller Coaster Tycoon park. Rides stacked on top of rides is part of the charm of Blackpool, but at someplace with a much larger land space like CP it would just look crowded and cold, I feel.

The more the years go on the more it's rather obvious that Mean Streak was a product of its time. I don't think ANYONE misses Hercules at Dorney Park, and that and Texas Giant were the two closest siblings to Mean Streak. Not everything that's old is historic, and the Summers & Dinn coasters have aged about as well as early 90s fashion has.

In a sense, it's almost as if the Dinn big three were influenced by the design of the Beast: big sweeping curves, long speed segments, and massiveness for the sake of massiveness versus actually making good use of it. It works on the Beast, but that's also largely a product of the terrain the Beast sits on, versus the flatland that Texas Giant, Hercules, and Mean Streak sat/sit on.

Don't compare Mean Streak to a Genera Hypercolor T-shirt. It deserves better than that. ;)

I don't remember what site it was or where it was tweeted from, but I heard something along the lines of If Kennywood goes RMC on one of their wooden roller coasters, Cedar Point would follow suit and do the same with Mean Streak. I laughed at this rumor, but who knows what Cedar Point is thinking in the design dept.

I never used to have a problem riding Mean Streak, but the last two times I've ridden it this season, I couldn't bare it. Not to mention it's been making a terrible screeching noise for the past year or so...

Shawn, did you take that literally? At a glance (and I didn't see what you're referring to), I think what the poster was trying to say was "when hell freezes over". How about something along the lines of "Cedar Point will give the RMC treatment to Mean Streak the day that Kennywood does." Could that have been more like it? If the poster meant anything else, then I'm baffled.

At any rate, it's preposterous to compare Cedar Point's wooden coaster collection to the antiquities that Kennywood looks after. CP's oldest wooden coaster is from 1964 and a couple of Kennywood's rides aren't all that far from 100. The alteration of Mean Streak from it's original form would be of no great loss, experience wise or historically speaking.

Mean Streak the past couple of years wasn't terribly uncomfortable, it was just boring. For some reason though, this year I feel like I just took a spin inside a washing machine every time I get off. They need a chiropractor at the ride exit now...

Last weekend it looked like the trains were crawling through those turns. Mean Streak is just not enjoyable. For me, it's one of those rides where it's more fun to watch than it is to ride (like Mantis before the conversion)

I rode it the other day and I'll tell you what, riding MS front row is as smooth as riding Gatekeeper. It was actually incredibly enjoyable and I didnt get bored of the layout at all nor did I have any kind of internal bleeding or physical pain! :)

Last few times I have rode it, MS was painful and not enjoyable at all. Its the seats that slam into your back as you meander around the course slowly. You can hear people groaning about how painful it is. A few ladies getting off the station looked like they been through hell. IMO its damn close to being an absolute worthless ride and a waste of time. The ride ops sees the discomfort in people as they are waiting to unload the train. Wish they would be some serious effort into that ride. It has potential with the basic topper track and new trains. Doesn't even need the typical extreme reprofile that RMC does just the steal topper track with some modifcations to some of the elements and new trains. Remove the trims and let the trains run full speed.

I rode it yesterday for the first time this season. It was decent up until the MCBR but After that, the ride was absolute torture and disgusting. I ended up clutching my chest in pain and my brother thought I was having a heart attack or something. I actually felt my heart and lungs being bounced around inside of me from the beating from the seat back and it took a few seconds for me to register the fact that the fun turned to pain so quickly. I think I am done with that coaster forever and would not be sad to see it go AT ALL. In fact, if they had a lighting ceremony to burn it down, I would pay the most money to light the match. I can honestly say that yesterdays ride was the worst wooden coaster ride I have ever had in life INCLUDING being beaten up Son of Beast. If someone has a heart condition, that's the ride to trigger a heart attack and possible death and this is not an exaggeration.

^ your experience sounds exactly like an experience I had back in 2005. I swore off the ride after that experience. However, when I started coming to the park on a regular basis in 2013 and hearing about the retracking, I gave it another chance and it was rideable. I still ride it now, and still get some bad or rough rides depending on the seat, but I'm all for an RMC conversion.

I never experience pain on it.

Sounds a lot like Gwazi at Busch Gardens. I can't say that I thought that I was having a heart attack, but the ride was down right painful. I never understood how people puke on or after roller coasters, but I told my wife that I could see how people could burst riding that thing.

Clevelander, what seat were you in?

I also had the same experience as you but I listened to some here that the only way to ride this fairly pain-free is to sit in the front car leaning forward not touching the back of the seat. There was a lot less jack-hammering that way. But I still think the ride is a big dud, especially with the trim on the first hill. It just plain doesn't appeal to me to even try anymore, I'd rather ride nothing than have to "endure" a ride and follow a procedure just to ride something.

It's a shame only one car is rideable. I don't think many people know about it otherwise you'd see a line just for the front car. Those poor unsuspecting people, they don't know what's in store for them. Nobody comes back from that ride smiling. Except one time I rode, these kids in the very front seat were having a ball.