Look LIke MS Will Be Staying Afterall

I think it would have the same ridership if it was up front. Like most people have said, its just painful. I can barely talk my group of friends into riding it once. Most sit out.

I know it will NEVER happen, but it would be awesome if Intamin could use their new track technology to retrofit older woodies like SOB and Mean Streak. They'd maintain their amazing beauty, but they'd actually be fun to ride again.

I like the bumpy ride. Thats what makes it special. It hurts a bit, but for some reason I really dig that ride. I laugh my butt off the whole time I'm on it because it is just so ridiculously rough. It just cracks me up that there is this enormous, beautiful, beast of a coaster...that beats the hell out of you! I dont think I would get such a kick out of it otherwise. It's not a very thrilling ride for the most part. If it was a smooth ride I think it would be boring.

It used to be fun before the trims. Still a fun ride and it is nice and long/

What are trims? When did they start on MS?

trims are breaks. like the ones on the first drop and then midway through the ride. they slow the train down since it was destroying itself.

Thanks. It has been like that for a while, hasn't it? I lived in Minnesota from 91-97, so I rode it for the first time in 97. I probably never rode it pre-trims.

The one's in the middle of the ride are block breaks. Used for a different purpose.

I definatly remember it always having those. Once you hit them, the ride never really goes fast again right? It is amazing how bad my memory is, but i seem to remember that it has a pretty dull ending.

And back to the subject of pain...I dont think I want to ride the Mantis anymore. The last few times I rode it my neck got pretty jacked up. There is a spot where it whips you kinda hard. I rode in the last car once, ONCE!, I thought I needed a neck brace.

Yeah mantis is pretty rough, but at least it's a steel coaster....nothing beats steel which is why an out dated woodie like MS should give way to project 2007.

And let's just see if a coaster the size of MF or TTD come to life in 2007, which would bring in HUGE lines regardless of where it was placed , up the ying yang...... so you MS lovers can't blame LOCATION.

It's not about LOCATION...it about the ride. If TTD was in frontier town, that place would be packed.

my bad, matt. i knew those were block brakes but had a temporary brain lapse. :)

nic, there are "new" trims on the first drop of mantis too. they were added after the coaster opened to help decrease some of the G's on the ride. i know MS didn't open with the trim brakes, but i'm sure someone more up on their MS history than me could tell you exactly when they were added.

Nothing beats steel? For what? Some of the new steel coasters are so smooth that you might as well just hang your head out of the window in the car on the way there. Steel coasters allow you to do tricks such as loops. But I think there is a place for both steel and wood coasters.

To me, the Blue Streak and the Beast were always my favorite rides. But those were in the days of no seat belts and lap bars that had significant play in them. It wasn't until the MF that I found a ride that I liked as much as those to old wood coasters. Maybe with the fact that restraints have to be overboard, wood coasters have lost the ability to be really good by offering a ride that rarely has you on the seat.

Yeah, the Blue Streak used to be soooo fun when I was a kid. We used to fly up out of the seats, had a blast. They lock you up pretty good now though.

I love the giant steel coasters, but old wooden ones are such a different ride. The bumpy, noisy, rough ride makes them feel a little out-of-control and unsafe or something. Thats what I like about them I think, they feel a little more dangerous. Even if they are smaller they still scare me about as much as a steel coaster.

I will ride the Power Tower, which makes the Demon Drop look like a toy, but still white-knuckle it on Demon Drop because it seems so rickety, loud, rough, and old. It adds an extra thrill that the sleek, smooth, newer rides just dont have.

Diversity...I like diversity.

Actually, the mid-course brakes are both a block section and trim brakes. They are meant to completely stop the train in case of an emergency but they also take some of the speed out of the train. So they are both a block brake and a trim brake.

cedarpointdude021170 said:
Yeah mantis is pretty rough, but at least it's a steel coaster....nothing beats steel which is why an out dated woodie like MS should give way to project 2007.

And let's just see if a coaster the size of MF or TTD come to life in 2007, which would bring in HUGE lines regardless of where it was placed , up the ying yang...... so you MS lovers can't blame LOCATION.

It's not about LOCATION...it about the ride. If TTD was in frontier town, that place would be packed.

Sure for a few years. You should of been there when MS originally opened.

The thing with MS is it isn't something you walk by and say "Hey lets go on it." Generally you plan too. It's not like TTD where you walk by it 10 times a day.

A park has to appeal to a variety of customers. There are those there for the thrill rides, kids rides and everything in between.

I agree coasters like CCMR and ID serve as stepping stone coasters for the kids. However, they also appeal to families and to the older rider that can't ride the bigger coasters anymore.

Think of CP's collection of coasters as a restaurant menu. There is steak, ribs, fish, spaghetti, salad and for the kids, chicken fingers. Something for everybody.

When you ride, enjoy each coaster for what makes it unique. The mist on ID, the launch on TTD, the roughness on MS or the history of BS. They all have something to offer.

Last I was there, BS wasn't that bad, I still had the feeling of being thrown out of the seat throughout, and that was after waiting for mechanical and rider-induced reasoning, iirc.

Also, a ride of the magnitude of TTD, towering 420ft over the entire park, is kinda hard to miss, though you do have to be able to find the way back there, that I admit. I was in mass pain last time I went as I had to go from the back to the front every 1.5hrs to check in with my family. The park is massive, and therefore it takes some planning to get throughout the park to see every part of it.

Yes it does take very careful planning! It is just so big now! I am old now, and my master plan involves so much walking! But I have to map it out starting from small to big. If you ride MF or TTD first, the Gemini is like going on a picinic with your grandma.

Guys, this has nothing to do with MS but i thought it was stupid to make a thread about it. what do you think Cedar Fair will do with SOB at PKI.

I love Mean streak even though how rough it can be. The front is defenetely more smoother.

The trims on MS were added in '92.