lap bar or shoulder restraints????

Some prolly do it to piss us ride ops off but maybe some are just stupid it could be a number of reasons. We prolly will never know.

-Doug-
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psycho691371 said:
well mantis does it so I would assume that raptor does it too I could be wrong but that is what I assume.

I'd have to go with the latter. The "seat" belts on Mantis were an after-market addition so I'd wager a good sum that there is no checking of the belts. Actually, I'd go out on a limb to say I'm positive that there is no computer check of the belts. Do Magnum, Gemini, Blue Streak, Mean Streak, Woodstock, Millennium Force, or CCMR's computers check for belts? I'd have to say those are all, also, a negatory, Ghostrider.

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I know that MF computer does not check for belts nor does it check for lap bars. As for the other coasters, Im not sure. I think that on Mantis, the ride op in controls watches as the train leaves the station. If he/she catches a belt undone, they stop the train on the lift and a ride op walks up and tells the guest to buckle the belt. When ever I have rode other coasters at the park, the ride ops tend to watch the belts as the trains leave the staions. They have never stoped a train when I have been on one, but I would say thats what their looking for, unfastend belts.

RideMan was right in his reply to Raptor1117;)

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*** This post was edited by 99er 12/29/2002 3:45:37 AM ***

I believe the only ride at the Point that has seat belt sensors is Power Tower. I know it was discussed last winter on here, and I remember someone said PT has some electronic seat belt sensor. Perhaps RideMan would know for sure.

On any other ride, if it stops on the hill for an unfastened belt, it is because an op noticed as it was leaving the station, or they saw it on one of the cameras on the lift.

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"If you're standing in an uncomfortable position, that means you are in the right position because you are riding Mantis!" - Mantis ride op doing spiels on closing day.

When Power Tower was new, there were no sensors of any kind on the restraints. There was no real need, as the cylinders that close the bars are locked when power is removed, which means that the bars are locked when the carrier rises about 3". In fact, those of us who rode it that first year may remember that the bar didn't lock until the carrier was lifted for weighing. I'm not positive, but I think the unlock busbar might have just stayed energized all the time so that if the carrier was all the way down, the bars were open.

For reasons that you can ask the PT '97 crew about :) the ride was later equipped not only with a switched busbar, but I think that array of contacts is supposed to individually check for minimum position of all twelve bars. I'm reasonably certain that there are no switches on the belts, but that the ride is checking bar position, probably bar position based on the maximum extension of the safety belt.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

I swear that mantis has something maybe added to it but it will stop on the lift if a seatbelt is unfastened. And I think it is the same with all b&m standup since iron wolf at SFGA will do the same thing. If brian were on this thread he could tell us.

-Doug-

Edit: I just emailed brian we shal know soon
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*** This post was edited by psycho691371 12/29/2002 5:09:19 PM ***

Its usually just a good ride op. Back when Flight of Fear still had the OTSR, my friend tried to itch his head by moving his arm half way under the restraint or something and the ride op at the front quickly hit the e-stop button while the train was half way down the tunnel.

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No, Doug. I swear it hasn't.

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99er said:
on Mantis, the ride op in controls watches as the train leaves the station. If he/she catches a belt undone, they stop the train on the lift and a ride op walks up and tells the guest to buckle the belt.

Im positive that this is how they do it Doug!

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*** This post was edited by 99er 12/30/2002 12:49:03 AM ***

ok I just talked to someone that says that she has unbuckled her seatbelt and the ride hasnt stopped so I guess I am wrong oh well

-Doug-
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Word around the street in the "D" is that there will be 4 restraints. Seatbelt, lapbar, shoulder restraint, and a kind of restraint like Chaos that goes over everything.

Me on opening day: People in Detroit talk a lot of crap! (there really would be a cage!) LOL.. Ok i'm done.

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I find that highly unlikely. The only ride that needs all of those restraints is a flyer, and this won't be a flyer.

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Do you think CP may use OTSR's because of insurance reasons? There have been many parks (including CP) that have used more restraints than necessary because of the insurance thing.

Why? There is no scientific reason for OTSR's over lap bars.

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Nor was there one for establishing a 54" height restriction for MF in 2000...not that it stopped them at all.

-'Playa

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i really wonder what types of lapbar well get stuck with?!

Man I may be a little late on all this hub-bub but i know for a fact that good ol' 99er is right on all accounts of his replies (you go buddy!!!!!!!!)
P.S. Very good point with the dicovery channel special!!!!
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Thank you MillenniumMatt;)

And when April comes around, i'll be sure and check to see if your signature is still there!

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To: 99er

If you get the job for you no what. Do you have plans up there around 430ft. or are you really going to just do your job. Like take pics up there for us neighbors or write something up on the worlds tallest like Millennium Matt.

Tiger Kiger

Neighbor

Have Fun Workin On It

I like the lap bar restraints better than the shoulders. The laps give you more room to move around. The shoulder restraints usually hurt my head by the end of the ride from the vibraion. Like on MF with the lap bars you are able to reach out to people, just like when you fly past the station on the way back from a exciting ride. This way you can see to your sides and don't feel so clostrofobic.

To: The guy that thought of the cage idea, around the seats. I don't like your idea, because really it is the same as the shoulder restraints. You won't have the enjoyment of reaching out to people as you fly by. You are still restricted to your movement inside of it all. Even though it maybe like a screen around you it will still obstuct your view, which will dull the excitement.

Tiger Kiger