Is it possible to get a walkon to TTD?

Adam - no matter how well Dragster's performance is from now on, it will ALWAYS have the reputation of being unreliable. Once you're known for something, its hard to get that to go away. Plus, I think everyone enjoying jabbing at you whenever a topic for TTD comes up. :)

I can't mention TTD without either people not knowing what it is or having them mention that it's unreliable. Though Millennium Force put up quite a show of downtime last summer.

I'm with Tim and Jump to Conclusions on this one; the ride has a bad reputation. I too can rarely talk to someone about it without hearing how often it's closed.

I understand where you guys are coming from but doesn’t anyone care that it's doing better? I mean it's like everyone shoots it down when it finally shows improvement. Give it and Cedar Point some credit; they're doing all they can to get it up as much as possible. And despite its reputation, it's one of the most famous rides at the park next to Millennium. In accordance to what you guys have been saying, how many people can you talk to with out, at some point, mentioning Dragster (in a negative way or not)? It's more of a hit than you guys give it credit for (what little credit you DO actually give it).

I hate arguing, but if stuff like that was just not said, there wouldn’t be any arguing. And you guys KNOW that if there's an argument about Dragster, I'm involved.:)
We all seem to get along fine....until someone says something bad about Dragster. It's not like I’m just going to stand by and let it happen either, I'll voice my opinion just as much as you guys do. It's stuff like what John said that really annoy me.....as you can obviously see. And every time I disagree with someone, I usually always end up getting bashed for it.

I know you guys wont stop and that's fine because it’s your opinion against mine, I can’t change that and I don’t mean to sound like I am. All I try to do is at least make Dragster seem like a more worthy coaster than you guys take it for (that's why I did the operation log and why I’m doing it again). I know I'll never win.....so I guess you will all just have to expect a rebuttal if you say something bad or make a joke about Dragster.:)

*** Edited 2/15/2007 6:23:18 AM UTC by TTD 120mph***

Well, I bet that if it annoyed you less (or you hid your annoyance more), that would reduce the comments by a considerable margin.

Oh so youre saying be quiet?

I fairly certain that you misread my post.

So many people say they're not crazy about the ride, but with a quick glance at every train coming down the brakerun and entering the unload station, their faces are showing much different expressions.

If it wasn't the downtime that make people dislike it, the 17 second ride time comes next on the list.

There's really no reason to even argue this any further since the ride is obviously very popular. With a daily capacity around 1000 pph, the line is consisently a hour long.

While on the topic, it's interesting we don't see much hate for Mantis. That is the one ride that I just can't get myself to go on very often. Pain is not a thrill! Is it that we just all agree that the ride is just not that great?

*** Edited 2/15/2007 2:39:27 PM UTC by Gomez***

I never though Mantis was painful. Okay, maybe the music in line is. I've been stopped on the lift for 15 minutes, nearly got a rollback twice, and got a half ride. Of all the things I thought during even those experiences, pain was not one of them.

I actually think there was a thread about Mantis which discussed such pain a few months ago.

I fairly certain that you misread my post.

I was more or less responding to the part in parenthesis. I just got the impression that you’re saying that if I don’t respond to people giving Dragster a hard time as much, then there wouldn’t be arguing (even though I know that’s true). And that's something I won’t do.

But who care now, you guys have you’re opinions and I have mine; let's just get along for the remainder of this offseason. There's no point in argueing about something if we cant come to any kind of agreement.

*** Edited 2/15/2007 3:40:01 PM UTC by TTD 120mph***

The daily capacity on TTD is nowhere near 1000 pph. Dear God, if you're going to be a ridiculous fanboy, at least get it right.

Easy there, buddy. I'd rather listen to him talk Dragster up than listen to you be an idiot, considering your task is infinitely easier.

*** Edited 2/15/2007 7:55:11 PM UTC by djDaemon***

He may be a ridiculous fanboy (maybe not as much as Adam though ;)), but he's a respected member on this site. I see that you're new nievsbob so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but you shouldn't come here and act like a jerk.

Thanks Vince.:)

Richard Kinzel has talked about TTD's problems on only a couple of occasions, but what I always got from what he said is that they could only push the limits so far before they learned that they couldn't go any further. (TTD was that point)

If the word "mistake" was used, it wasn't used to describe the ride, but rather how they jumped the gun on building such an advanced system before everything was proven. The ride is a great thrill it just doesn't perform like anyone would like it to.

Has anyone every calculated a hourly capacity on the ride when it is running its best (<60 second intervals)? I have seen that ride pull through a line very quickly on a couple occasions and that's why I said around 1,000 pph.

nievsbob said:
The daily capacity on TTD is nowhere near 1000 pph. Dear God, if you're going to be a ridiculous fanboy, at least get it right.

Actually he's right, I think you read his post wrong since he added the "daily capacity" part in. But per hour Dragster's capacity is about 1080. It takes about 60 seconds for the system to launch each train, so 60 trains per hour x 18 riders per train.. Of course that's not exact cause it all depends on how quickly the hydraulic system recharges which depends on the weather and other factors.

I thought everyone would understand the abreviation "pph" (people per hour).

I guess nievsbob didn't get it.

Vince982 said:
but you shouldn't come here and act like a jerk.

Why? We haven't made Adam stop yet. ;)

And I'll say it again (as if this hasn't been worked to death yet).

Dragster is a great thrill ride, one of the best.
But it's a mediocre to poor coaster.

My reading comprehension is as good as ever, thanks guys ;-)

I am aware that approximately 1000 pph (got the abbreviation down, too), or as magnum put, specifically 1080, is Dragster's *theoretical* capacity. However, it rarely, almost never, gets close. Let's use this analogy: Do you remember going to the doctor when you were little? He'd measure your height, then look at a chart and predict how tall you might be when you were done growing. I was predicted to be 6'2". 1080 pph is Dragster's predicted/theoretical/whatever capacity. Reality is far different. I'm 5'9". Dragster's real capacity doesn't really approach 1000. Which is more useful and applicable in real life? I'd figured that was common knowledge, forgive me if it isn't.

And regarding the Kinzel quote...I do believe he actually called it a mistake. If I am wrong and his actual words were "a poor business decision," then it really is still a mistake. No one makes poor business decisions on purpose, therefore, if Dragster was a poor business decision, then it is also a mistake. Haggling over words, guys.

Adam and Craig, sorry if I tweaked you two a little hard. Just having a little fun with the fanboy part. Don't get me wrong, I love the ride. I've lurked around here for quite awhile, so I don't think I'm too far behind the curve on this stuff. Gotta have a sense of humor and a bit of a thick skin to be a fanboy, eh? ;-)