Hill Question/Theory

Examining the hill makes me wonder. Without looking at photos of all kinds of rollercoasters I was wondering about the supports. There are equal supports on both sides of the hill. Is this normal? There would be more force on the entrance to the hill than the exit. There would be no need for the extra bracing on the downside of the hill.

Although I doubt it, could this coaster go either way or both ways? I know the whole switching thing has been dismissed before, and I am no physics major, and the ride capacity would be greatly diminished etc. I just really wondered about the need for the braced support on both sides of the hill.

Maybe I'm just an idiot - no need to comment on that!

Uhhhhhh, ok i wont comment on that.

That was actually my first thought when looking at the newest pictures of that hill. It would theoretically need more support counteracting the "in" side of the hill, although I really don't know if this is standard practice or not. To me, this was the first inkling that there may be a VERY remote possibility of this coaster, ahem, going both ways. ;)

Looking at Magnum, the supports seem to be pretty evenly spaced throughout the ride. I don't notice more being on the incoming side of a hill than on the outgoing side.

It seems really far-fetched...but I think its really a good possibility. I mean, it'll be something thats never been done before, and Cedar Point loves doing that.

Plus, that would go with the sayings on the construction signs. "A whole new direction", "winds of change" (as in changing directions).

I think that it really could happen...but it still seems far-fetched.

Its been done plenty of times (unless this ends up being a complete circuit that goes both directions). I doubt we will see it go both directions though. There would only be one train, and as long as this is shaping up to be, they'll want more than one train to keep the capacity up.

Right and Cedar Point is building a Roller Coaster that stretches around the globe hitting every continent! HaHa ;) Anyone ever think that it could be Speeds we have never seen thus needing extra support on both sides like we have never seen? *** Edited 8/23/2006 3:12:44 PM UTC by Tonyblackjack***

That COULD also be a reason why we're seeing a lot of supports in the proposed station area. What if while one train was launched and is running the coarse, another train is being loaded to be launched the other direction! It's pretty far fetched, but if you were able to have two stations loading simultaneously, you could theoretically hit just as good of intervals as MF. MF can only have one train on the circuit anyway

I'm starting to think I have less and less an idea of what CP is actually going to do. I think they're really going to be thinking outside the box on this one.

DragonFire said:
Uhhhhhh, ok i wont comment on that.

Then why did you even post?

All the cool kids post really sarcastic comments in threads where the topic-starter thinks outside the box and suggests something against the grain.

Inky (but not Blinky, Pinky and Clyde) - What happens in the middle? If this is a complete circle then they've got to meet somewhere, and that would not be good. Not to mention a backwards launch just doesn't sound that fun for my neck.

Look closely at the supports, and you'll see that there aren't any supports attached to the track piece at the crest of the hill. I think that's the only reason why there are supports on both sides of the hill.

Ahh... Good call, Mr. Small. That's pretty obvious in retrospect.

Jugga,

I'm thinking of having two stations side-by-side, one shooting SW, one shooting NE. The queue could be set up much like PowerTower (choose which way to go) halfway through the queue.

While SW is launching and running the circuit, NE could be prepping for launch. SW could come to a small swich track before the stations that would direct it back into the SW station. Since the NE train has had 2 or 3 minutes to unload/load, everyone is buckled and good to go by the time SW has returned.

NE then dispatches slowly through the same small switch track and into the launch area. It launches, runs it's coarse and then returns to the opposite side of the stations, runs through another small switch track and returns to the NE station.

Then, as you may have guessed, SW is ready to dispatch. It travels through the switch track that NE JUST came in on and into it's launching area.

After thinking that out more clearly, I think it sounds even cooler :)

Maybe there will be some kinda tansfer track in the station that makes the trains go around each other and then transfer back to the main track Launching you forward. What I just said sounds confusing if I weren't at work I'd draw up an idea that might work for you guys. You would then have to also have a transfer track mid way through the course so they didn't run into each other. I like the idea of that happening just see it be far fetched and lots of downtime possibly because of Transfer tracks jamming. I dunno could happene we will have to see.

That would be an interesting set up. And definitely an idea worth seeing. Of course, I'm still hung up on the whole launching backwards thing. I can't imagine what it would be like if WT and TTD were backwards. It just sounds extremely painful.

Switch track = bad.

Not necessarily, I think the correct form of the equation would be

Midcourse Switch Track == Bad

Hey!!!!!!! Im Ticked!!!!!! The countdown is At ZERO AND NO!!!!!!!!!!!! ANNONCEMENT. ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jugga in my plan you would never be launched backwards mine was basically what you said just differently and sent it faster HaHa.:)