Extended Closure

Jeff:

I just don't think you're looking at it in totality, nor have you seen it up close.

I have crawled around, on and in several Model Y BIW assemblies/subassemblies, along with the BIW bodies of various Rivian, Lucid, Canoo, other Tesla models, among many others, EV, ICE, and everything in between, from prototypes to crash models to production bodies. I've provided BIW joining advice to OEMs and tier 1 suppliers for those and more, for years. Several of my customers, to whom I provide engineering support, provide subassemblies, battery trays, and repair parts for everyone from Oshkosh to GM. I've recently laid eyes on the latest Tesla battery tray, which won't see production for a quite some time. This is, quite literally, "what I do", so I am pretty familiar. :-)

Aluminum is a fantastic material to incorporate into car bodies, as it, along with modern adhesives, can lighten vehicles while providing relatively good strength. But I don't know if there is any unibody vehicle, EV or otherwise, that is made of 100% aluminum. Heck, even the Ford Super Duty F-Series truck bodies incorporate steel in their otherwise aluminum body, and those are body-on-frame!

Even if body torsion weren't an issue, meeting crash standards would be, so steel is, to my knowledge, always incorporated to some degree. It may only be a small amount, or it could be the majority of the structure, as is the case with the Model Y, though that big aluminum casting is undeniably impressive.

I do not own a Tesla, nor have I crawled around in one. But I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

TTD 120mph:

Silver train is reportedly going to have all it's bogies back on at some point tonight

But will the wheels be installed correctly? Hopefully they don't install them backwards.

Maybe if we litigate the material composition of my car for three more pages it will explain why People On The Internet know better than Zamperla engineers about what to build their trains out of.

Some people around here need to learn how to "take an L" as they say today, and just admit they are wrong. You can't call someone out for something they said when they have the expertise to back it up (like being told "you haven't seen it up close" when in fact you see it up close everyday), then try to say something along the lines of "we can go on for pages, when the experts know better. That is a losing statement in a debate.

From page 3 of this thread (post beneath the TT2 photo).....

Tuesday, May 14, 2024 11:02 AM
I'm hearing a Monday June 3rd re-opening from the Auntie Anne's pretzel stand girl. Lemon Chill Guy says Memorial Day weekend. We'll see whose correct.

We might have a new more reliable source than the Lemon Chill guy. How did she know?!?

99er:

Take a fall from 100 feet up on a carabiner or one of these and you'll have a nice appreciation for how strong aluminum can be:)

Weeellll.

You wouldn't want to clip those into any steal cable. Then you would find out how much softer aluminum is to steal.

Most people are stealing copper lately, though, not aluminum.

Hopefully the Zamperla train engineers asked for advice of metallurgists on the properties best suited for this application, since their first engineering attempt failed.

And if they fail again, maybe CP can ask Elon to send them into space for good.

(the trains, not the engineers)

Might be jumping to conclusions assuming this is a metallurgy issue. I highly doubt something that significant could be resolved in a season let alone possibly mere weeks. This could be something as simple as a spring, fastener or other minor part that was not meeting design specifications or standards of wear. If testing starts anytime soon the simplest explanation is that it was a minor problem that could have caused major issues down the road rather than a major problem in the present.

Ride mechanic guy posted interesting video apparently showing one (or maybe all) of the modifications to the wheel assembly:

Kudos for Zamperla for rocking this redesign and remanufacture so quickly.

I like his straight-forward approach. Nice to watch a video that contains less sodium.

Cedar Pointer:

You wouldn't want to clip those into any steal cable. Then you would find out how much softer aluminum is to steal.

If you know what your're doing, you'll only use those on steel truss;) Steel cable lifelines call for something a little smaller.

Not that my opinion means much around here, but I’m not convinced they have the solution just yet.

During Tony’s interview earlier this week, if he knew that a fix was just around the corner, I think he would have said something other than “I don’t anticipate this being a season long issue.” (Not verbatim).

I don't think you fully understand Tony's job. People ask him when a ride may open. He is not Zamperla, he is not maintenance; he is the public face of the park in some incredibly fun scenarios but also some very difficult scenarios.

What else is he supposed to say? If anything he gave you all you needed to know; 1) this sucks, and 2) it will open sometime this summer.

Is this really that hard?

Looks like silver train is officially testing as of tonight:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ro...s_testing/

Yeah, taking Lagoon Maintenance Tony precisely at his public statement word is always a little shaky .....

In this instance, he is probably being smart and knows that even if the parts have arrived, there may still be substantial testing and even further tweaking needed to make sure it can reliably be open for the public.

Being a PR guy, he understands its smarter to use more of the "low" season right now to make sure you get it right, than to rush it, open it prematurely and then have to re-close it -- that would be PR disaster.

T-Bone better have this thing fixed before the kids get out of school. If you guys see him, tell him to grab a wrench and help out. Those wheels don't put themselves on!

veritas55:

Yeah, taking Lagoon Maintenance Tony precisely at his public statement word is always a little shaky .....

To be fair, they were actually performing lagoon maintenance at the time. It's just that they were also doing something else in addition to lagoon maintenance.

So if that shot of the wheels legitimately shows the change, as much as we can see it, my assumption is that the extra material prevents the guide and upstop wheels from pitching and yawing relative to the direction of the train as much as it might have before. Hard to believe that they would have in the first place, but if I think about what the twists in the track feel like, with all of the mass of the train and passengers involved, perhaps it's that simple.