Dress code,tattoos, and scarification

So we all know Cedar Point cares about dress code. Nothing wrong with that. You have to hide tattoos and take out body piercings. But as the world goes round, humans take on more ways to express themselves. SCARIFICATION: More dramatic or less dramatic you decide. Scarification is used with a surgical knife or scalple. Sometimes they cut real deep into your skin or take slivers of skin away. After you heal, your left with a scar. Depending on the person, they can be light or darker than others; sometimes less noticable than a tattoo. Theres no ink in your skin; its your bodys scar tissue in the pattern you got sliced with? Would this be against dress code??? Very goood question.

Cutting into yourself with a knife in a pattern has to be one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard of.

I agree Fastball.
To answer your question Ivy, I would think it's againt dress code, as it doesn't depict a family friendly atmosphere.

What about someone who has burn scars on their arms or neck? Are you going to make them cover up because its not "family friendly".

Don't take this to mean I support it, I agree with fastball that it sounds stupid, but in a way, I understand body mods. Scars are one area that is not black and white.

As a guest, I really don't want to see someone like that at Cedar Point (especially not someone who works there).

In fact, I don't want to see that type of thing at all. IMO, it's just palin wrong (or sick, if you are older).

MrScott

(When I posted this, I was, and still am, talking about intentionally scarring oneself, not someone who got caught in a fire or something).
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I understand that, and I think it is stupid (I certainly wouldn't do it to myself) but how do you determine what scars are ok, and which aren't. Sometimes its not cut and dry. Now, if your scar makes a smiley face, I think you're covering that up. But scars aren't as easy to blanket as tattoos.

And now for something completely different........

Sorry, had to throw that in there in reference to your "palin wrong" comment....

If someone is going to do that to their body intentionally then they have bigger problems then meeting any dress code.

Burn scars caused by a fire/accident is something totally different than what Miss-X was talking about. I got the impression that she was referring to people who create scars in a pattern or picture that can resemble a tattoo.

Given that these are apparently drawings that people have made by cutting themselves, I would think it would be looked at in the same way as a tattoo. CP would probably want it covered up.

While not for me, I'm not going to judge people that do scars. That's lame. I have several piercings myself, but those are easily undone if I choose to do so. That's why I'm too lame to get a tattoo (unless I come up with something that I would really dig).

I have a friend with huge scars on his forearm from a car accident. That looks a lot different from ritual scarring, which tends to be more in a pattern. I suspect that they would be against it.

As much as I considered pierced and tattooed folks "my people," I do understand why the park has strict policies in that area. Sadly, most people associate said people with a bad element, which is lame and closed-minded. Society needs to change before the business can.

fat chris said:
If someone is going to do that to their body intentionally then they have bigger problems then meeting any dress code.

That's a really uninformed opinion. Read up on the psychology of it, as well as the historical context, then get back to me.

Alright, Jugga...I'm leaving that typo in that message...God knows I've brought attention to typos in other's messages.

"Cut and dry". Now, THAT was funny!

If it's INTENTIONAL DISFIGURMENT, I don't like it. And I'd believe those that were caught in an accident or fire are completely miffed by someone who would choose to do that to themselves.

Personal opinion.

MrScott

"Self-expression" can only be taken so far before it evolves into something more serious. Anyone who would intentionally cut themselves needs help.

Actually someone I worked with did have scarification last year and they made him cover it up with ace bandage.

Good. Tell that "someone you worked with", Please don't show me something I don't want to see.

It's just disgusting.

MrScott

In my anthropology class last semester we watched a video on body adornments. Some do it because it is part of their culture, some do it because they're into that sort of thing. Personally, I'm not into huge tattoos, excessive piercings, or scarification. I don't look down upon people who do those things whatsoever, it is their personal choice and I support that. However, one occasion that applies to this comes into mind. I was at the mall one day and I walked by a man, who I would say was in his mid 20s, wearing spike jewelery, had a huge mohawk, lots of piercings, and his arms were covered in tattoos. As I walked by there was a mom and her small son, maybe 3, walking by him in the other direction and the boy was looking at the man and wanted his mom to pick him up and when she did he buried his head in her shoulder to hide his eyes. He appeared scared when he saw the man. Cedar Point is a very family oriented park which obviously means that small children go there. If they see employees who have excessive piercings, suggestive jewelery, or scarification it could scare small children. I mean, all of us on this site are mature enough to handle that but small children may not be.

Yep. And some of us just don't want to see that type of thing. Seeing guests like that is bad enough! I don't want someone securing me into a ride (that could kill me--if not secured properly), that has chosen to cause pain to themselves for attention (or pleasure, who knows?).

I guess I'm just getting old.

MrScott

Jeff said:
While not for me, I'm not going to judge people that do scars. That's lame. I have several piercings myself, but those are easily undone if I choose to do so. That's why I'm too lame to get a tattoo (unless I come up with something that I would really dig).

I have no problem with tattoos and piercings. Except when drastically overdone. I'm just not a big fan of tattoos up and down every body part. Piercings are fine because you can take them out at your will. However I draw the line at doing yourself intentional bodily harm in the shape of something. Especially when you can get a tattoo.

I watched a show on VH1 a few months ago that talked about the increasing popularity of piercings and tattoos in the younger generation.

They are no longer limited to huge biker guys and the people that work in Hot Topic. People with tattoos are working their way up the corporate ladder. Although they are usually hidden, tattoos on girls' lower backs is now commonplace. It's also becoming increasingly mainstream for girls to get more than one piercing per ear, belly button rings, and the rarer studded piercing in one nostril (I'm a sucker for this one). I guess when Christina Aguilera got pierced and went on her "Stripped" tour piercing parlors were inundated with teens who wanted to get pierced.

I really don't understand the reasoning behind the prejudice towards piercings and tattoos. Maybe since I'm part of the generation that is embracing it, I don't get it. I mean, looking down upon someone because they choose to get piercings and tattoos is the same thing in my eyes as discriminating against someone of a different race or religion. Just because they get ink or pierced doesn't mean they are any less qualified to do the jobs they choose.

The truth is, you don't know what someone has tattooed or pierced under their clothing. My wife Stephanie has had her nostril pierced for seven years. She has more education than most of you. When she worked at CompUSA during her first masters program, some moron woman literally said, "I refuse to ask you questions because you have a nose ring."

If you don't like it, fine, but don't be a moron and presume to know anyone's motivation for doing it.

MrScott said:
I don't want someone securing me into a ride (that could kill me--if not secured properly), that has chosen to cause pain to themselves for attention (or pleasure, who knows?).

That's stupid and uninformed too. The truth is that most people that do any kind of body mod do it strictly for themselves, not others. It's quite the opposite of reckless abandonment for one's own body. It has more to do with ownership, living in the moment, and finding control in life. You'll never get that until you've done it. And if you choose not to, again, don't be so presumptuous to think you understand their motivation.

Carving up yourself is a very strange way of "finding control in life", Jeff.

I think it has more to do with drawing attention to yourself. Just my opinion.

MrScott