Disappointment
Call me old-fashioned, I just can't believe, for the life of me, why people would complain about a ride that will go 100+ miles per hour and over 400 feet. 100 MILES PER HOUR AND OVER 400 FEET TALL!!!
If I want to go upside down a lot I will ride Raptor or Mantis. If I want a long fast ride I will ride Maggie or MF. If I want to go high and fast, I will ride this new ride. I don't think it is quantity, or even quality, that is the driving point of CP's success in the coaster world. I think it is VARIETY.
Would someone please tell me where else in the world you can ride a coaster over 400 feet and over 100 mph? Anyone? Buehler....Buehler....Buehler.
*** This post was edited by Chief Wahoo 11/1/2002 3:15:01 PM ***
CoasterBob said:
I will be disappointed with CP IF this ride turns out to only be L-TH-B. Mainly, it's because I have always thought of CP as a park that "goes one better" than than the current "best" in a particular ride. This happened when Raptor was built higher, faster and with more inversions than Batman. It happened when WT was built higher and with twists on both ends. It also happened when Gemini, Magnum and MF all debuted as the "tallest, steepest, fastest" coasters for their time.In keeping with that tradition, I just don't see how a simple L-TH-B ride will extend the envelope. Granted, it is certainly looking like it will probably be the tallest and fastest launching circuit coaster when it opens (although I still doubt that it will exceed 400'). But it just seems like such a waste to put all that potential energy into the train only to have it screech to a halt after coming down the hill.
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Oh, and I am STILL looking for a reference to a true L-TH-B coaster that currently exists in the world. I don't think that there is one and this, to me, is further proof that CP isn't building one since they generally do not build a "first of its kind" type of ride.
I dont know in what world "highest tallest fastest" would NOT be seen as "one better". Say what you will, the stats will be impressive.
Okay, just to clear it up for you people, *no* potential energy will be wasted. All the potential energy will be used to launch the train. Once the train is moving, the potential energy will be transformed into kinetic energy. It is this kinetic energy that will be "wasted" (though I'm not really sure where it "goes"..if they were friction brakes, it'd turn into heat, but with mags....hmmm). Sorry, my "inner engineer" was disturbed by that. :)
And the thought of a L-TH-B coaster is not a "new concept" as you claim. I contend that it is simply a different layout of a proven rocket coaster. But assuming en arguendo that by changing this layout into L-TH-B it is "new" then one could contend that the "Oblique loop" on mantis was "new". I dont think *that* was done before.
And anyone who doesnt expect good things from SF is an asshat, plain and simple ;)
lata, jeremy
BTW: You *are* aware that SFMM has a 1st gen freefall as well. So anyway you count it STILL TIED!
lata, jeremy
--who notes that people *have* ridden Flashback @ MM
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CP is spending most of their money on potential energy. First the money is going into a hydraulic launching system which takes the potential energy of liquid under pressure and expends it to put the initial kenetic energy into the train. Second, they are building a huge tower which provides a place for the train to go where it will then hold a lot of potential energy.
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CP King said:
This is just a thought what sf bought cp and is keeping it secret and building this ride to keep us guessing. That would be why they repainted the Wildcat and they are going to disappoint us greatly when they make this annoucement.
Not to dignify with with a response, but...
SF would be in violation of several federal regulations. Since its a publicly traded company, it can't acquire new assets 'secretly'--they have to state publicly when the buy something.
Secondly, CP would never, never, be sold to SF. ThCF does better financially then SF, so why would they sell thier marquee park. Which leads me to...
Third, SF's stock is in the crapper right now, and they're in debt, I beleive. What, exactly, would SF use to buy CP with? Lemon chills?
Finally, CF's philosophy is so diametrically opposed to SF's philosophy that I don't think they'd ever allow CP to be sold to SF, even if they here hemorraging money.
And what does Wildcat's new paint scheme have to do with anything? You've got it backwards--its SF that doesn't paint their coasters, not CF.
One reason the lines are shorter and the sorter rides, the lines move quicker. I still wait in line to ride Demon Drop. All coasters and all thrill rides at CP have a different thrill and they are all still exciting. Last time at CP, I went on Gemini probably 3 times in a row. However, it would be interesting if CP done something to make Gemini more exciting. Turn one of the trains backwards. Yes I will still like Mellenium Force and Raptor better than a short coaster, but I would probably still ride it more than once or even more than twice, as long as it is not rough.
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