Dick Kinzel's Revenge! (Shot Glass size Free Water Cups)...

But so what? Food is a basic necessity to satisfy hunger. Maybe every business should be required to serve free crackers as well.

How long can you live without drinking some type of fluids? How long do you typically spend at a sporting event, a park, a restaurant or the zoo? Do you think its long enough to dehydrate if you are not given free water to drink?

I suspect that most people are not at CP long enough in any given visit to dehydrate even without drinking one drop of fluids (assuming they are healthy and were hydrated when they got to the park. So why should CP be required to provide free water for everyone?

And if I am going somewhere longer than the period with which I can live without something, I make sure that I have made provisions for that something while I am there. I don't count on other folks to take care of me.

Really?

Why do you see the ambulance in the park taking people to first aid on hot days? That's right...heat exaustion or even worse a heat stroke. And that is coused by being out in the heat, and not drinking enough. There has been days where a ambulance was going by every few min. Look here...

http://www.medicinenet.com/heat_exhaustion/article.htm

You can go days without food. Water is something you need on a daily basis. I would never expect any public place to offer any kind of free food.

Well, have fun getting a bottle of water into a concert venue.

On a hot day, it can take only few hours to dehydrate someone enough to cause health problems. Requiring a business to make water available is not unreasonable.

Sure it'll cause their costs to go up, so raise the price of admission the fifty cents to offset it.

Also, just fyi assuming you have a normal functioning kidney and heart it takes a lot, and I mean a lot of water to get to the point where you get "water poisoned" because the kidney will simply filter the excess out into urine to keep your electrolyte levels intact. Thats why the first sign you know you are dehydrated is that you stop uriniating (or start urinating really pungent yellow urine.) If you have the opposite (clear urine) you have a fluid excess at the moment.

Also, amusment parks seeing as they want their guests to stay and enjoy a full day (as opposed to a few hours at a concert or athletic event) its really in their bust interest to provide free water.

My statement went to most people. My guess is that the majority of people do not spend all day at the park. Thats from looking at the numbers of people coming and going from the park at all hours of the day and the large number of people I know who only go there for 4-6 hours when they go. I may be wrong. A healthy person is was properly hydrated when they got to the park is not going to dehyrate in the few hours that they spend there. That some folks get heat stroke doesn't change that.

You will not dehydrate in the time it takes for a concert. So how is taking a bottle of water to a concert even relevant?

It takes a lot longer than most people thing to dehydrate.

CP has numerous places for you to buy drinks. You may not like what they offer and you may not like the price. Fine. The park also provides a picnic area in which you may bring your own drinks for consumption while in the picnic area. If you do not want to do that, you are also able to keep a cooler in your car with drinks and be re-admitted to the park after rehydrating. So why isn't that enough? Why must the park also provide free water to folks?

And I wouldn't expect any business to offer free food either. Though I also don't expect businesses to provide free water. Just trying to figure out why people think that all businesses should be required to provide free water (and as noted, I am not asking why a business would chose to provide free water to its customers).

And its easy to say add the increased costs to admission prices (though many folks would b!tch about the 50 cents). But why doesn't the buisness get to make the decision of whether it wants to incur the costs at all? Why should they be required to provide the free water?

On a hot humid Ohio summer day, walking across a 1.5 mile park (Maverick to Main Gate) and standing in close proximity to thousands of biological heaters (ie other guests) and then ramping your sympathetic nervous system to the max on rides (which when activated causes your body's metabolism to kick into over drive raising your body temp and thus increasing your perspiration as your body gets rid of the heat.) It is a lot sooner then you think.

Also I severely doubt people stay for only 4-6 hours, sure they might not do the 13+ hours enthusiasts do but I bet that number is much closer to 10-12 hours. You have to remember that CP is a resort destination which means a lot of people stay multiple nights and take advantage of things like twlight passes on their first day and may deem it worth their while to add one more day on to their ticket (since it is cheaper) even if they can only stay until 12-2 in the afternoon on their last day.

"Why must the park also provide free water to folks?"

The same reason they have restrooms......because it's humane.

Maybe they should charge for using the bathroom...or maybe they should start charging for using the sinks in the bathrooms. That all cost's them money. Why not make the drinking fountains a extra charge as well?

Where does it all end?

And it is not free. You payed $12 to park, $40 to get into the park.

GoBucks89 said:
Exit -- So a bunch of folks went to a concert knowing they would be there for a few hours without making any provisions for drinks (either bringing money to buy drinks or a cooler with drinks to leave in the car)? One, I suspect that those young folks would have been just fine without having anything to drink while at the concert. Two, no wonder the "government will take care of everything" approach is so popular in politics today.

a.) It was an outdoor venue, in 95 degree weather.

b.) No outside food or beverage permitted.

c.) No re-entry once through the gate - so there goes your car idea.

d.) Some of these people hadn't ever been to concerts before, or could only afford enough to pay the ticket price. Doesn't mean they should be denied hydration.

The point is, people don't realize how good they have it at a place like CP.

TD -- Thats just more evidence of the water idiocy thats swept this country. Have a glass of water before you get to the park, another glass or two with lunch and another couple at dinner at you will be able to walk all around the park in July and August without getting dehydrated. You may feel thirsty at some points in the day but absent pre-existing health issues, you are not going to dehyrate.

crazy -- So they should be required to provide free water because its humane?

Can you see a difference between providing water and bathroom access?

And next time I am there, I am going to ask for a free hamburger. When they balk, I will tell them its not free because I paid $12 to park and $40 to get in the park. Makes perfect sense.

Yes, it's humane and nessesary that people have water.

A constant supply is needed to replenish the fluids lost through normal physiological activities, such as respiration, perspiration and urination.

The exact amount of water a human needs is highly individual, as it depends on the condition of the subject, the amount of physical exercise, and on the environmental temperature and humidity.

Like I said, I would never expect free things like food. But I would expect water to be made avalable to me.

And have you seen the studies they have done on bottled water?.

According to a study by the Environmental Working Group, bottled water is just as polluted as a tap water. In fact, twenty percent of bottled water has more chlorine than California's state regulations will allow in tap water.

You can read more about it here...

http://planetgreen.discovery.com/food-health/healthier-tap-bottled-water.html

Exit -- How long was the concert? My guess is that (notwithstanding this country's water idiocy) all of those young folks would have been fine without water for the length of the concert. And it sounds like they were not being denied hydration in any event. They either chose not to pay the price or were unable to pay the price the venue was charging.

There was a time when kids rode bikes, played sports and ran around all day long in the summer heat with nothing more than fluids at meal times. And apparently there were many trips to the hospital for fluids and dehydration deaths that were just buried under the carpet and erased from a generation's memories.

I'm still trying to find this water "idocy". If anything, people in this country don't drink enough of it.

As for when we were kids, I remember all that. It was interspersed with trips to the hose quite often. Wait 10 seconds to get the hot water out and a nice quick cold drink.

GoBucks89 said:
Exit -- How long was the concert?

All day long. Multiple bands, multiple stages. I think it might have been a Warped Tour, I don't remember.

It started late morning, and didn't stop until after the sun went down.

Man, if only they had something like a garden hose, with a nozzle on it, that dispensed drinkable water...

Why stop at water? I think Cedar Point should be required to provide free ice cold Gatorade that contains electrolytes to replenish the minerals lost while enjoying a day at the park.

Also, long before you get dehydrated, you start feeling pretty crappy. Mental function goes down, mood goes down, you dont move as quickly and your hunger goes away. Do you as an entertainment company really want your guest to associate that experience with a day at your place?

Where pray tell will you get these magical glasses of water at lunch and dinner time? Most people are cutting one (if not both) out of their park days to save money.

Also in the "good old days" I remember my mom intrupting my play for water many times. Were made up of 80% water and we lose it with every breath and every bead of sweat. Humans can last 1-2 days tops without any water intake in the best of circumstances, heat exaustion can and does happen to people who go to CP well hydrated at the start of the day.

Here is some interesting info on that $375 bottled water....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3QBZac3MSY

Or better yet.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfPAjUvvnIc

I guess I have to pose this question again since I didn't make it to the Point this year.

Did they tear out all of the water fountains?

The water fountains are inadequate to serve a normal summer crowd at the park, you need more avenues to get water.