Celebration Plaza work?

You mean except for the entire Frontier Trail, Frontier Town, the area along Dragster, etc.?

Call me Shirley, but in over three decades of visiting the park, 'needs more trees' has yet to cross my mind when I'm having a blast at the Point. I'm too busy having fun riding whatever was built on top of the stump. People are quick to point out, "Well, Dollywood could have built that ride around them there trees", or "Shoulda done it up Holiday World style!...damn tree haters!"...but yet I don't think many of us have sat in on the planning and design to actually see what needs to be done where.

Some of you seem to be picturing this as Cedar Fair, and something tells me that's a little off.

Not to mention it's all a bit melodramatic. As noted above, if one wants a nice shaded area, I'll point one out to you on the map. Plenty to be found.

There's a nice blend of concrete jungle, wooded area, and oh...let's not forget beachfront...all in one happy little area.

I didn't know we lived in a world where new trees couldn't be planted to better fit a renovated area.

I don't get everyone's obsession with trees here. I didn't know there so many environmentalists here. They could easily plant new trees elsewhere in the park.

Thabto said:
They could easily plant new trees elsewhere in the park.

I second that. There are many ares of the park with a lot of trees already. Trees can be planted. It is not as if trees can't be replaced once removed. I never really understood the whole tree argument either.

I just now remembered, but this song was playing one time last year on Fun TV while I was in line for Gatekeeper. Maybe it was a teaser that more trees were going to be cut down in the future.

For a good April Fool's Day prank this site should be renamed "TreeBuzz".

Kevinj said:
Some of you seem to be picturing this as Cedar Fair, and something tells me that's a little off.

All I know is that voice just does not fit with the guy with the mustache at all.

I kind of enjoy that the park has two distinct areas, a shady tree filled area in the frontier trail and frontier town and a high energy Midway area which actually looks good without a lot of trees.

Magic Mountain didn't cut down a particular tree and ninja ended up crashing into it after it fell in it's path.

http://coasterbuzz.com/Forums/Topic/ninja-partially-derails-at-six-...c-mountain

So there's that. If trees are coming down, it's because they're in the way. Just plant new ones in a new, more suitable location.

When wide swaths of trees are cut down like that it's not always because they're in the way of the ride, but because they're in the way of construction of the ride.

New trees are always a good idea, though. It just takes 5-10 years for the area to look lived in. I say there's nothing wrong at all with a shady park.

I used to live within 2.5 hours of Cedar Point, now it's a 14 hour drive. My new home park is Six Flags over Texas [2.5 hour drive], Cedar Point is starting to look like it, at this rate it'll get there in no time. Removing the trees they removed is nothing when you compare how it looks vs my new home park. Regardless, Cedar Point is still my home park at heart and as such I'll be able to make it up there once a year for one or two days.

Let them do whatever they need to do, and hopefully they will plant more trees, but we have no idea what is going there anyway, so at this point even that doesn't really even matter. Still, it is indeed fun to speculate. Pretty sure thats where the new dive coaster is going.

Honestly I think the complaint is more that it takes a long time for newly planted trees to grow in as well as the mature trees being removed, and if it's one thing that roller coaster fans don't tend to be, it's patient.

That being said, I think most people here remember that we had this same conversation back in 2007. Look at the Maverick area now versus when it debuted, and it's like a world of difference. Still not as bushy as it was for White Water Landing, but once it's there as long as WWL was, I'm pretty sure it will be. Also, were the trees in that area really all that dense compared to Frontier Trail anyway? I remember most of the greens in that area being on the shorter, more decorative side anyway.

People forget that sometimes trees are removed because they are dead. A couple years ago a bunch of trees on the Frontier Trail were removed because they had some sort of disease that was killing them. They removed them before it got worse. I'm sure in some cases they know trees are dead but just wait for a new attraction to come along so they can roll the cost of removal into the new attraction.

Thabto said:

I don't get everyone's obsession with trees here. I didn't know there so many environmentalists here. They could easily plant new trees elsewhere in the park.

There were literally three people complaining about tree removal. Three people is not everyone, nor are they even a majority.

Well, to be fair, and this is something you should know, the "Cedar Point ain't got no trees" thing is nothing new around here. It's been brought up many times, repeatedly, over the years. It goes right along with the "Cedar Point's done lost its charm" discussion.

So maybe that's the direction our Thabto was coming from.

I'll grant that. But on the flip side, there is a pretty vocal group that jumps on any negative mention of tree removal. So I think both sides are kind of bonkers (and I admittedly have been less neutral in the past).

Yes, the park still has trees. And no, CF is not in the business of providing shade at ~$60/ticket. But there has been a tendency in the past (and not much evidence either way from this leadership group) for the park to seemingly take no effort to preserve trees when clearing land for a new project, and that's disappointing.

RCMAC said:

Well, to be fair, and this is something you should know, the "Cedar Point ain't got no trees" thing is nothing new around here. It's been brought up many times, repeatedly, over the years. It goes right along with the "Cedar Point's done lost its charm" discussion.

So maybe that's the direction our Thabto was coming from.

That is exactly what I meant.

I think what he thinks is a crane is actually the MF hill, I think, do you think?

Sad to see those trees go. It was such a peaceful shaded area of the park. Most other areas in the park with trees have roller coasters roaring by. I just loved how this area felt so isolated in a park that feels soo congested. With the removal of Disaster Transport, Good Time Theater and these trees, we're quickly loosing ways to beat the heat and stay out of the sun at Cedar Point. Hopefully they have more than coasters and concrete in-store for this area.