Calypso and Turnpike Cars land

At one time that area between the Good Time Theater and the Midway Station of the CP&LE supported three spectacular rides. From the Marina/Cedars gate down, the Super Himalaya, the Bayern Kurve, and the Schwabinchen. All three were big high capacity rides with a lot of flash that consumed a lot of power, especially at night when each had light shows on them that had thousands of incandescent light bulbs illuminating them. Yeah I would say that there is power there and I can't imagine that they were removed when those rides were removed. As far as the water, there is water on the far end, as it's a necessity of the CP&LE (not counting the fire hydrant lines). Natural gas, there are lines to the big food stands in that area. Of course we don't know exactly what they have in mind there just yet, but they do and probably have mapped out a course of action at least a year ago.

Does anybody think if Challenge Park is going to be seeing any expansion in the near or far future?

That is the one gate to the park they have not redone yet.

I think it would be really cool, if they did build a dive coaster, for the first drop to go into into an enormous Immelmann out into the midway across from Coasters Diner. I think this could really be feasible especially since they have now moved Dodgem.

Maybe they should move Coasters. Just a thought.

Challenge Park is an odd bird to me. I like mini-golf, my kids can't do the go-carts yet, and the other stuff just has no value/interest to us. But most of it hugs Magnum and is in a nook that would be hard to do much other than expand Soak City. Frankly it might not be a bad area for the ever debated dark ride to go. Out of the way, etc.

Looking at Google Maps this afternoon.

You know, you shift the entrance and exit to Raptor to basically the area where Blue Streak's entrance is. If you get rid of the Pirate Ride building. I suspect you would inject life into Blue Streak again by having the volume of people near it's entrance. If they do punch-through a new midway along the back of the GTT land to the train station, maybe having the entrance to the new coaster as part of it, you'd have a great and heavy traffic space. Might even aford a bit of room to expand Chicke's and Pete's.

I will be disappointed if all that land is behind a fence. I'm not sure the cost benefit comparison between 1000's of feet of fencing vs a pile of grass seed and some pavers/concrete for a path back to the Marina entrance or the train station.

They probably keep the construction fencing after they finish a project, so they might even already have enough for that. That being said, I would also rather this large plot of land not sit completely vacant and unused for at least a year.

NWLB said:

Looking at Google Maps this afternoon.

You know, you shift the entrance and exit to Raptor to basically the area where Blue Streak's entrance is. If you get rid of the Pirate Ride building. I suspect you would inject life into Blue Streak again...

I was thinking along those same lines, except moving only Raptor's exit to that area. That way, Raptor continues to pull from one of the most-traveled areas in the park, dumping folks out in a way that exposes them to that section of the park, which is obviously one of the least-traveled.

After eating at C&P's last Saturday, I do think they could use more room. And a bigger bathroom, because there was a long line.

Once again, are you forgetting about Maverick? There was a ride gone from that large area (two, if you want to count the swan boats) for over a year.
Disaster Transport was closed and for the balance of that season there was a big empty spot surrounded by a fence. Oh well. That's how we see progress and get new things.

Actually, when the park opened for 2006, the Maverick footers were in place. It was a little bit of a distraction at the Skyhawk media event.

Right. WWL closed in 2005, 2006 was a construction year for Maverick, and 2007 saw the opening. We watched Maverick under construction for a whole summer, much of it before the ride was even announced.
I don't understand the worry over empty space at Cedar Point for a season when it's necessary for building the next big thing. It happens a lot.

I miss WWL :(. Oh well Maverick is way better. And if the area is fenced in then im just going to be riding sky ride a lot more to get a peek.

The difference here is that some suspect the land will be used as part of a project for the 150th anniversary in 2020, not sooner. If they start using some of it for next year, that's different. I would have no complaints against the site being blocked off if they were to start construction soon, but a few years of vacancy would be really tacky. It's also very much unlike modern Cedar Fair.

Who's to say that it's not a multi phase project? Pieces of it opened up over the next five years? I would hazard an educated guess that there is going to be a whole lot more to this than just erecting another coaster. With the park now being open until the end of October, and weather being what it is there, they have a very narrow window when the can do heavy work without having to deal with the public. The end result of this is that they have to stretch out the length of time that it will take to complete a project.

I think they will start using this land next year. Then they will build on it piece by piece. It would be a waste to use it all in one year for one thing, unless it was spectacular. Having this much space opened up gives a lot of potential to what the park could do.

That would be pretty cool if Cedar Point went for the tallest and fastest coaster record for the 150th aniversity in 2020. Perhaps sooner...

How about best and most fun?

Yeah, at this point I would rather Cedar Point not focus on records. They are cool. But I'm perfectly fine if they don't. Whenever they do build future coasters I would expect that they would go for records for the specific type of coaster(like tallest, fastest, longest wing coaster), but records don't make or break a ride. I would have no problem if they did go for tallest coaster, just please not a poler coaster. I would like CP to focus on creativity. If tallest and fastest fall in with that creativity so be it.