Anyone else SLIGHTLY dissapointed in STR?

That was kind of all over the place, and very rapid.

Sorry i have a lot to say!!!And i'm just trying to make my post as clear as possiable.

RailRunner said:

So you can knock what you haven't tried, the one guy was right about Maverick yeah it is only 105 but if you look at it-it has part of the hill as the turns and then they make up for the lift height by launching you 70 MPH but i was disappointed they had to remove the heart-line spin and as low as it was that was a real thrill, but it is a cool ride(track layout wise).

Maybe I'm old but I'm not sure I am disappointed in the heartline roll being removed. After feeling the speed at which those trains would have went through the roll, I'm fine without it.

RailRunner said:
And i'm just trying to make my post as clear as possiable.

:)

Tennessee_CP_Fan said:

RailRunner said:

So you can knock what you haven't tried, the one guy was right about Maverick yeah it is only 105 but if you look at it-it has part of the hill as the turns and then they make up for the lift height by launching you 70 MPH but i was disappointed they had to remove the heart-line spin and as low as it was that was a real thrill, but it is a cool ride(track layout wise).

Maybe I'm old but I'm not sure I am disappointed in the heartline roll being removed. After feeling the speed at which those trains would have went through the roll, I'm fine without it.

Lets NEVER change Maverick OK?

If I remember correctly, removing the roll had more to do with the force on the trains than damaging the people inside them (or does that even make sense?).

I would volunteer to take the roll at least once ;)

^If I'm not mistaken, you would have pulled about 7Gs if you go through that roll, so the forces on the train and the people inside it were equal factors that caused the roll to be removed.

FYI: Astronauts pull 3Gs on launch. At 7Gs, the average park guest would pass out.

The human body can handle anywhere between 9-17 g's (and higher, in some cases), depending on the direction, duration and a host of other factors.

As I understand it, the roll was removed due to the forces on the train. Though I can't imagine the average park guest would enjoy that roll at that speed anyway.

So when you guys say valves will control the splashes, will that be controling the water level on the splashdown sections? Or will it be somehow the track in the trough can be raised or lowered to vary the splash?

Between the two options, adjusting the water level seems infinitely easier. But I don't think the water level in the trough is adjustable; it's the waterfall, rapids and what-not that will be adjustable, according to what park officials have said.

Ride Warrior, given that Maverick's heartline roll was initially designed to pull zero Gs, I highly doubt that (even) Intamin made a miscalculation so large as to somehow make it pull 7 Gs. Cedar Point has several times come out to say that the heartline was taken out to reduce wear on the trains (and particularly the chassis) due to the extremely quick, high-speed transition it would have had to endure over and over and over...

I believe djDaemon is correct - I'm pretty sure that the water level will be adjustable.

southpuddle said:
I believe djDaemon is correct - I'm pretty sure that the water level will be adjustable.

I stated that I don't think the water level in the trough is adjustable. Are you schizophrenic by any chance? ;)

Water level is always adjustable--just put less water in. Obviously you need enough to float the boat, but beyond that just put more/less water in.

Hmm interesting. Forget I said anything :)

Although I still believe it will be adjustable to limit the splash the boats make upon impact with the reservoir, combined with the waterfalls being lowered or even turned off. The main thing is that I believe the park wants to have STR open all season, unlike TC and SRF.

Would adjusting the water depth affect the size of the splash? The splash is caused by the boat's rapid displacement of water - so we have 2 factors that determine splash size: speed and displacement.

The amount of water displaced by the boat has nothing to do with the water depth. That is, the Titanic would displace the same amount of water (provided it was free floating, obviously) whether it was in Lake Huron or over the Mariana Trench.

The speed of the boat is determined by the height of the hill. All else being equal, if the water depth were lower (further from the apex of the hill), the boat would reach a higher speed before hitting it. That would mean a bigger splash.

The only way I can make this make sense is if the horizontal track after the drop(s) extends so as to force the boat to a certain height, and raising or lowering the water relative to that height would mean the splash is adjustable. But it doesn't really look like the horizontal track extends far enough for that, though there could be more that's not yet installed (or I could be completely wrong altogether).

On that I have no idea. But you didn't post about the splash--only the water level:

djDaemon said:
I stated that I don't think the water level in the trough is adjustable.

djDaemon, I've always been under the impression that the track will continue out horizontally for a length after the drop... at least that's how Pilgrim's Plunge is. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QYMqrto5Mg See how the horizontal track sort of glides into the water? If the water level is low, it glides more gently. If the water level is high, there's more of a "slamming" motion upon initial entry into the water. The horizontal track has yet to be placed according to the webcam, but I'm assuming it's still going to be there eventually.

southpuddle said:
Cedar Point has several times come out to say that the heartline was taken out to reduce wear on the trains (and particularly the chassis) due to the extremely quick, high-speed transition it would have had to endure over and over and over...

I will have to admit Im kind of impressed on how well Maverick handles all the extreme transitions in the ride even without the heartline roll! I am also very glad that it seems to be a great running and popular ride!
...this, of course has nothing to do with the fact I named my colt Maverick after the ride or that its popularity means less people on line for Raptor! ;)

Im actually looking forward to STR-I love water rides on those unbearable hot days. Hubby and I will spend morning riding then change, get drenched, dry off change again and ride the rest of the day. Fun! :)

Jo
Lifetime Raptor flights: 2175 :)

edited to add in the STR comment--totally forgot what the subject matter was!! lol

I am completely un-enthused about STR. I mean, where is the twist or creative spin? WWL was more original than this. The only thing that could redeem this ride is if it had an incredi le storyli e and an immersive theme, which we all know CP doesn't do well. I suppose I was expecting a launch flume, or a backwards section, or something like that. I guess I will pass final judgement after I ride it, but I could probably give you a detailed synopsis of the ride experience before I ride it.

Has anyone noticed that the old "chute the chute" rides do not soak their

riders the way the new ones do? The water splash seems to be directed away from the boat and not back upon it. Not sure what the design mechanics are, but it would be nice to see them used now. For reference,if you have ever seen the "Great Old Amusement Parks" video done by PBS you'll see what I mean.