Any word or thought on a ride for 2006???

Because a TTD employee knows everything.

The ceiling rule?

Nevermind maybe what he said was BS but I know there are laws like that out there. Also why would he lie about that sort of thing?

I had a TTD employee in 2003 tell me that he had his own coaster design firm, and since Intamin were such peices of crap that he was going to be designing Cedar Point's next coaster.

Now, why would HE lie about that sort of thing?

The point is, some park employees think the parkgoers will listen to and believe things they say, and they probably know they will wind up on the internet somewhere. If I was in that situation, you'd better believe I would have a field day getting people worked up over stupid yet semi-believable rumors.

-Josh

What this park really needs is something original, and that hasn't been overdone (which in my opinion flyers and floorless coasters have been). A dive coaster is what this park could use.

What CP needs is a nice, exciting thrill ride For 2006 (a coaster can wait till '07) Maybe something like a tower that blasts you up in the air 370 ft. while spining would be cool.

Why not just tear down PT then? If they are going to add thrill rides, they need to be new, not rehashes of thrill rides that are already at the park. As cool as the idea is (it would be cool if PT spun while rising) its wouldn't make sense unless they removed PT.

As for a dive coaster. From what I can tell, the biggest thing about those is diving straight down into a hole in the ground. Something that is not going to happen on a peninsula like CP. It would be cool to have, but the biggest effect of the ride (staring into Oblivion) wouldn't be possible, at least not without being super cheesy.

The mining theme for a dive machine could work well, the train could be diving into a mine shaft. My question is, for SheiKra and Oblivion do they have lights and such in the tunnels or are they just dark?

Here's the POV of Oblivian

http://www.coasterforce.com/CFTV/atlive.php

It looks to me like there isn't lights

I hate to say this but Oblivion, "aint all that", judging from that video.

Oblivion was B&M's first Dive Machine, and you do have to remember how incredibly stupid Stafordshire acts towards the park. Shiekra is a wonderful example of what a Dive Machine should be, and it proves that the Dive Machine is about more than dropping into a tunnel. I cans ee one at CP in 2010 or later when the contract between Busch and B&M runs out. *** Edited 7/14/2005 6:59:48 PM UTC by BlueStreak64***

What's your source for this 5 year contract between Busch and B&M?

The only way one will come to CP is if it stays above ground, which at that point, why does it have to be a "dive" machine? Why not just a regular B&M hyper with a vertical drop?

Do you know how much maintenance and work would need to be done on tunnels to keep them from leaking. CP doesn't have a whole lot of room before you hit the water table, and then you could be looking at a water coaster very quickly.

Ummmm, maybe because they already have a hyper?

Jugga they don't need to under ground. The coaster could "dive" into a tunnel that looks like it's going under ground.

I'd thought about that, and the first word that came to mind was T-A-C-K-Y. I think that would be much less exciting than if it were able to go into the ground.

I would much rather see an Invert or a Floorless even a straight up BM Hyper over a Dive Machine. Although Sheikra does look cool, a lot of that is the theming, and we've seen how well CP handles theming.

Yeah, theming has never really treated CP right. I mean it is an amusement park not a theme park, right?
Dragster is probably the best (and in a way the only) themed coaster at CP.
DT and CCMR are also kind of themed......but only to a certain point.
A very small point.

I tend to disagree with that. CP does theme things, just not that well.

MrScott

At least were not as bad as SF, (throwing coasters in the middle of parking lots.):)
*** Edited 7/14/2005 11:12:32 PM UTC by tophat***

lol, Good one tophat.:)
Anyway:
Sure, Frontiertown and Frontier Trail have some nicely themed buildings and what not, but it's the coasters (excluding Dragster) that CP skipped to theme.
But that doesn’t make them any less interesting.

*** Edited 7/14/2005 11:20:35 PM UTC by TTD 120mph***

There is a contract between B&M and BG to not build dive machines in the US for a certain amount of time. Thats not pulling anything out of my ass, thats the buzz around the internet, and its not considered as low as a rumor, as is the whole 3 intamin coasters at CP thing. Just type it into google, you will get tons of pages mentioning it.