Any body have an Iphone?

Jeff said:
Oh, and my 4 gig phone has 400 songs, 90 minutes of video and 300 photos on it right now. And real Web pages. And real e-mail, calendar, stocks, weather, maps, note pad and YouTube. Did I mention it's an iPod? And how big is your screen? Mine is 3.5". Size matters.

I guess you get what you pay for.

My Dell axim has 8 gigs, real webpages, real email, calendar, stocks, weather, maps, notepad and a 3.7 inch screen. And best of all its NOT an ipod. Only thing it doesn't have is Youtube and im working on that. And it can even be a phone with an add-on card and the total cost with the add-on card is the same as an Iphone.

Plus it looks a heck of a lot better in my opinion.

And in interest of less arguing and bragging.
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I emailed CP the day they released the wallpapers and told them that they work for more then the Iphone and shortly after the changed the title to Iphone/Mobile Wallpapers. As for the Iphone specific advertising I dont know why they decided to use it instead of some other phone.

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heh, yeah I do. I'm a supervisor. Go me.

Again, all of the objections are crap not based on any experience with the thing. If you really want to believe that other phones do what the iPhone does, as good as the iPhone does them, knock yourself out. It's not perfect, but it beats the pants off of any plastic piece of crap out there today.

You get what you pay for.

A couple of my friends have the iPhone, and I still don't feel it is worthy of its price tag.

As for beating the crap out of anything out there today....you mean the touch screen right?

If it was complete and not missing more basic functions that most phones have today, then yes it would beat the crap out of them.

the iPhone is a sleek interface, decent ammount of storage and..missing functions, all together in a $600 box.

Apple just realizes there will be a bunch of fanboy's so they up the price, you can't possibly belive it costs them that much to manufacture, and the battery situation is still just plain stupid.

This is not going to set the standard for phones like the iPod did for portable music players.

The iPhone will take the role of what mac's are in todays pc oriented life.

In a year or so we will know how muc the iPhone has really succeeded, you have to wait for the initial buzz to wear off.
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halltd said:
That still doesn't answer the question as to why a cell phone is imperative at Cedar Point.

Who said it was?
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I find it interesting that people think that Apple is making above normal profit on the iPhone. They simply are not. They make more per unit sold simply because the price is higher.

The rule of thumb is that the MSRP should be ten times the marginal cost to make the product. A rough breakdown of many such products is 40% goes to the retailer, 20% goes to distribution costs and taxes, 30% goes to the marginal costs, fixed costs, R&D, and other associated costs to bringing the product to market. The rest goes to profit. A rough estimate is $60 profit per iPhone sold. This is a long run figure assuming that they meet projected sales. It's the return on a substantial investment.

Sema said:
If it was complete and not missing more basic functions that most phones have today, then yes it would beat the crap out of them.

And what functions are those? People keep talking about what it doesn't do. Aside from MMS, which I rarely used anyway, there isn't anything that it doesn't do that I need it to do. And everything it does, it does really well.

The iPhone will take the role of what mac's are in todays pc oriented life.

Oh, you mean increasing market share, quarter after quarter?

I forget the Web site, but the one that tears down devices and prices out the components put the 4 gig, $500 iPhone just under $300 to make. Add on the marketing and R&D, and it's hard to say what it really costs. Remember though, that this is not a subsidized phone. That's why the data plan is unlimited and not much over the voice plan. You aren't paying for the phone over time the way you do for nearly every other phone (especially the "free") phones. Countless articles show the iPhone costs the same over two years as any Blackberry or Treo or Blackjack, and in some cases it costs less.

rumor is that 100,000 have been returned already! -

There are also rumors that magnum is sinking, project 2008 will be 500 feet, and that Jeff owns a black helicopter.

None of them have any basis in truth (except for the black helicopter, that ones still pending).

Bholcomb, I strongly suggest you remove the emotion from your decision to leave Verizon over $35. I switched to T-Mobile from Verizon for my FREE Blackberry Pearl - what a mistake - Verizons coverage (at least here in the Northeast) is well worth $35 over one or two years. My first cell phone came with a shoulder strap, I've had every provider known to man - VERIZON rules - and I can not wait to switch back.

Jeff, regarding the Iphone, there are more than a few features beyond MMS that it doesn't do. GPS, voice recognition, and movies being the most notable. Yes, I know you can watch youtube videos - but my blackberry provides GSP voice directions, voice dialing, along with 1g for storing movies to watch on planes. The Iphone is a sexy phone, don't get me wrong, but "free" is my favorite word.

I have to say I think the Iphone is a very cool product. A coworker has one and I think it works well and does cool things if you're into music and video on the go. And, it also has an excellent mobile web browser.

Personally, I have a Moto Q and I couldn't replace it with Iphone for a few reasons, most of which are work related.

First is the lack of a Jabber IM client. We use jabber extensively at work to communicate and I absolutely need that for any mobile device I use for work. Windows Mobile has a number of third party IM clients that work well with Jabber.

Second, Email on the Iphone sucks. I need a fairly robust imap Email client, and the Email client on the Moto Q fills the bill nicely.

Third is the AT&T Cingular network. I get three bars at Put-In-Bay with Verizon, AT&T gets one bar at best and it's spotty. Anyone who knows me knows how important Put-In-Bay coverage is! :)

My point was, there is no real report about how much it costs to make and how much they make on profit. We already know they overprice their macbooks like crazy.

Apple will never actually compete with windows in terms of pc's vs mac's. Plus the fact that almost every piece of software that comes out is made for windows firstly, and then SOME go for mac.

Tom said:
...GPS, voice recognition, and movies being the most notable.

Uh, I watched a movie on it at lunch last week. And GPS and voice recognition, what the hell do I need those for? There comes a point where consumer objects are best built to do things really well for the bulk of consumers. That's the focus of the product, not to satisfy geeks.

I'm still wondering why it took a decade of mobile phones for someone to come up with visual voice mail.

I'm still wondering why it took a decade of mobile phones for someone to come up with visual voice mail.

Because it's not just the phone that provides visual voice mail. Visual voice mail only works when that specific phone (iPhone) is tethered to a specific network (AT&T). That's also why you can only use the iPhone on AT&Ts network. Unlock the phone and use it on T-Mobile, Orange, or any other GSM network and your visual voice mail doesn't work.

Apple likes to do things they have complete control over. That's why they've limited the phone to one network. It's the same way they started with their computers. No one else was permitted to manufacture their computers and they had complete control over the operating system. That's how they are able to control how well their products function.

I doubt any other phone manufacturer would have been successful in saying "our phones can only be used on X network." Since the iPhone is relatively unique, they're able to do just that.

What are you talking about? There's no shortage of timed exclusivity contracts between phone manufacturers and service providers.

The iPhone doesn't do SSH or IMAP as far as I know. Both of those features would be really handy. Maybe not for most people, but for me.

I don't plan on going to T-mobile. They suck. If anything, I'd go for AT&T/Cingular. They seem to be pretty on-par with Verizon coverage wise, and much better in the Customer Service department.

halltd said:
Apple likes to do things they have complete control over. That's why they've limited the phone to one network. It's the same way they started with their computers. No one else was permitted to manufacture their computers and they had complete control over the operating system. That's how they are able to control how well their products function.

It has nothing to do with some big conspiracy to control the universe, even if that happens to be a nice side effect. Apple makes design decisions that result in a better user experience for the customer. That's what drives the design. When you get out of the geek mode you see that.

Seriously, everyone talks about carrier lock-in, yet these are the same people who get a new phone every year anyway. I don't care that visual voice mail doesn't work on other carriers. AT&T is providing what I need at a price that I find fair. I've had phones with all of the major carriers except T-Mobile, and I've experienced no significant difference. Coverage was not a problem (except in parts of Kauai in 2000 with Sprint, but come on, I wasn't there to use the phone).

Remember how everyone said the iMac was doomed to failure because "nobody" would ever buy a machine with integrated system and monitor? That was seven years ago. They're still selling. It's a convenient package and people could do without a big box on or under their desk.

People would "never" buy DRM music that only worked on their iPod either, and here they are, the third largest retailer of music in the country. Why? Because it's a seamless experience that no one else has been able to match. Why would I want to use another device when this combination works really well? Just so I can say I can?

Hmmm. Let's see. I never said there was a conspiracy. You asked a question and I provided the simple answer - direct from Steve Jobs. During his release of the iPhone, he said that the reason they are able to provide visual voice mail is because they were able to develop it directly with a SINGLE provider - which at the time was Cingular. By controlling the variables, they can provide a more stable product. That doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out.

List me any other manufacturer that locks a phone to only one network. If you can find one, I guarantee you the key features of that phone will still work on the other networks. Visual voice mail is one of those "key features" of the iPhone that will NOT work on any network besides AT&T. That's because they were able to develop the product in tandem with a service provider - something that's not been done before.

If you should be telling anyone to get out of geek mode, it's yourself. If I didn't know any better, you'd try to convince us the iPhone was able to cure cancer and bring about world peace.

No he wouldn't. Man you're blowing this one out of proportion. So he likes his phone. It still does cool things, although it's not very practical for me and I wouldn't get one. You got phone envy or something?

No envy at all. I actually love Apple and think they make great products. The iPhone doesn't work where I live (because our GSM networks are not AT&T). Even if it did, I will still wait for v2.0 because I think they have some things up their sleeve for the second version. I was simply answering his question about why no other phone has offered visual voice mail before and I get called a conspiracist again. I didn't even make up the answer. Steve Jobs gave the answer to his question during the announcement of the phone.