2008 Pay Scale

It's not all about numbers. It's also about safety, and there is safety in numbers. CP prides itself on being a safe park, and part of that comes from there being a couple extra sets of eyes in the station.

Decreasing the amount of employees working a ride is not the way to budget cut either. (even though i heard we might see some of this in '08 as well) I love working at CP, and had plans on going back next year.

with the pay only raised to $7 and a bonus of only $.35, theres no point in going out there. Min wage here in Illinois is going to be $7.75 (i think) starting in '08, so i can make the same amount staying at home, working a job with actual realistic shifts, rather than going out there and busting my ass everyday.

Now again, i love CP and i dont do it for the money, but being a college student this is when i need to start looking out for myself. I'm heavily contemplating my return to CP.

This HRP was somthing i looked into too, it looks really exciting and i think will make a great park..... *** Edited 12/12/2007 9:41:56 PM UTC by GAM man 68*** *** Edited 12/12/2007 9:47:42 PM UTC by GAM man 68***

We run 4000 servers, enough air conditioning to equal 1,000,000 tons of ice... and need to have enough generation power for 3 megawatts, and we're not breaking 100k in electrical as far as I know.. and we run 24/7/365.

DBCP said:

Third, there were many rumors floating around at the end of the season of an $8 base rate, $1 bonus AND a returning employee benefits program. Where did all of this come from? That's a big difference from what we're seeing now.

Now that would have been a smart move on the part of the park, IF they want staffing, quality and customer service.

Jtaylor and Ben have it right in my opinion. I can see that the rumor of better pay may have been talked about by the people in charge. It's just that the little matter of CF's close to 2 billion in debt got in the way.

If been really studying the company's financial situation. I'm far from a financial expert, but I find it hard to figure out how the company cannot violate loan covenants in the somewhat near future. They will either have to cut the distribution, go private or do something else drastic.

I can also see that little land deal at Geauga Lake being disappointing, the price of land is really going down the tubes.

I really hope I'm wrong, but I see CF going down the same road that Six Flags did. Such a shame. Remember when the price per share was around $36? Now it's barely over $21. I think the investors are starting to connect the dots.

*** Edited 12/12/2007 9:57:46 PM UTC by Pete***

CPboy77 said:
^If only more of the employees were like you. Too many people on here being greedy that's for sure.

Too greedy for sure? Clearly this clown does not know what it is like to work 14 hours days without a break because you are already too understaffed to run the way you are running. While you have histarical parents who lost their kids. Mind you there is no overtime a sucky bonus and you get to look forward to going back to a dorm that is comparable to camping.

The pay wages is beyond unreasonable. I have said it many times that CP does not treat their employees right. Honestly, I do not know how many more seasons they have to go through with staffing crisis to get the picture. I havent worked there in a year and won't ever again but it still makes me mad to see that they just simply don't learn from their mistakes.

Clown? Far from it, trust me I know what it's like to be not paid enough. The point is rambling here is not going to do anything about it. Maybe discuss it in person with, um maybe your manager??

A manager can't do anything about it either. Let the employee's rant and rave, they know nothing will be done about it.

Right ... talk to the managers about it. They are in the same boat. Most mangagers at CP are not that well off either. So until you work there, clown, and deal with the disfunctionality of it all you have no right to an opinion. Sorry but when you go step up and say greedy without ever being in this situation you are going to get treated the way you did in this thread.

The managers know how bad it is. They told us many times last season. Hell, even they get paid just as bad as us.

All the employees know this comes from much higher up than the managers. It even comes from higher up than the park itself.

Managers see the employee crisis, but I dint think the big wigs do. Maybe 2008 will be the wake up call for them. I really thought about going back, but I dont think I will be going, maybe to another park down in the south.

I don't see a reason for me to complain here. What more do you expect from a minimum wage job.. I say if you don't like it then don't work there. Which is why I'm not working there again, however I really do miss working there, and the experience, and all the people I met. If they lose more employees.. then, I guess that's their problem to figure out. Maybe they should increase park admission more so they can pay their employees more.. but who is going to be happy over that?

*** Edited 12/13/2007 3:07:20 AM UTC by Ryan06***

CPboy77 said:
Clown? Far from it, trust me I know what it's like to be not paid enough. The point is rambling here is not going to do anything about it. Maybe discuss it in person with, um maybe your manager??

I don't know where you work, or what experience you have. But whatever it is, it must be nice. Because in the real world things don't quite work like that and hell I'm not in the real world yet either. But one thing is for sure I know what its like to be treated like a piece of trash at work. I also know what its like to work a 14 hour day, how CP employees do it week in and week out is beyond me.

Point is they have every right to complain and you need stop before the hole your digging hits water.

*** Edited 12/13/2007 3:31:15 AM UTC by CP4eva'04***

They would laugh in your face if you asked for a pay raise.

I don't see how complaining about the lack of a pay raise is any different from complaining that Coaster Type "X" isn't coming to the park, but that's just me. Both will come to the same effect, but we're all here anyway.

We care about the park. It's almost a painful thing to admit, but I do have some fond memories of the place. I don't want to see it get into a bad way. I believe many of you are right, that it will take a critical staffing problem before the higher-ups see things differently. Apparently they didn't consider this past year's Weekends to reach that level. I think it's a poor way of thinking of things. Certainly they can wait for there to be a crisis, and who knows, maybe it won't ever come. But ideally, shouldn't it be the goal to prevent there from being a problem?

One thing I've learned is that CF is a ridiculously reactive company at the corporate level. I know that the managers are aware of the situation and how bad things became at certain times last year, but until they can get someone convinced at the upper levels, whether by persuasion or by actual results, I doubt much will change.

Or an accident because the operator you just worked 80 hours in the past 6 days falls asleep and someone dies...

I'm just curious...Does CP hire practically every qualified employee that applies? I remember reading in years past of people who applied and got turned down...with the apparent staffing issues, I can't see them doing that any longer.

Back in 2002 when i started housing wasnt great but if the A/C went out or you had a problem with something it got fixed quickly, now they just ignore it and have let housing get into aweful conditions.

They then go as far as to blame the employees, like saying that the Commons bathrooms are dirty because of employees, instead of looking at the fact that a couple hundred people just used them in a matter of 3-4 hours and they might need to be cleaned again. The pay was never great but Big Bash, the now defunct Calypso Bash, other "parties"/events, and general thankfulness kept morale up. Plus you were treated with some respect. Seems when GL was aquired things went downhill quick. And the attendence program this past year? that was aweful. I'd take the cheap stuff I might use over junk food.

i remember back in either 1995 or 1996 the bonus program was for the 1st 400hrs you worked it was 50 cents a hour then after your 400 hours it was $1.00 and hour, i remember i had my 400 hrs in like the middle of june.

CP4eva'04 said:

CPboy77 said:
Clown? Far from it, trust me I know what it's like to be not paid enough. The point is rambling here is not going to do anything about it. Maybe discuss it in person with, um maybe your manager??

I don't know where you work, or what experience you have. But whatever it is, it must be nice. Because in the real world things don't quite work like that and hell I'm not in the real world yet either. But one thing is for sure I know what its like to be treated like a piece of trash at work. I also know what its like to work a 14 hour day, how CP employees do it week in and week out is beyond me.

Point is they have every right to complain and you need stop before the hole your digging hits water.

Dude, you gotta understand that CPboy77 thinks Cedar Point is like...God. Nothing they do is wrong and you are damned if you dare to complain. I mean, the kid thinks freakin' Disaster Transport is the best ride in the world!

Hey now! Disaster Transport's a pretty sweet ride!

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