Update: July 9

Regarding the supports, can one say that they use the same style supports for different coaster types, or do they really use unique supports for each coaster?

I'm for the same style, as once a proving design works, why change it. The supports aren't really what makes a good coaster, the actual coaster and all the different elements does it for me. Yes, a few head choppers or near misses for the supports enhances the ride, but that really it in my opinion.

Hopman, why knock off about an Aquatrax? The supports and the track shapes that are visible certainly point to a very twisty coaster that is well suited to individual cars.

The pictures I've seen of the Aquatrax in S Korea make the coaster look like it would be a lot of fun, plus the coaster seems like a great family ride. I think it would be unique and a great fit for CP.

The Aquatrax theory may be totally off, but to me it makes more sense then the Wing Walker, 500 ft. coaster or mega looper theories out there.

Loopy said:

TTD 120mph said:
About the inversion record: The 4D coaster Eejanaika has indeed been placed in the guinessee book for having the most inversions. They count seat rotations, not actual track inversions of which there are 2 (inside and outside raven) and the roll after the inside raven if you want to count that.

I think you better check that again.

Colossus is still the record holder at 10.

And for all that were worried about this, they will never give a 4D coaster the record unless the track actually does go upside down more times than the current record.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=49978

On Eejanaika´s website, you can find a menu called "Specs & Guinness" indicating that TTD120mph has right.

http://www.eejanaika.jp/

Can you please translate the Japanese for me? I'm a little rusty.

Secondly, its a coaster that hasn't even opened yet. Guinness usually (maybe they made an exception) doesn't measure coasters until they have opened.

*** Edited 7/11/2006 1:32:46 PM UTC by JuggaLotus***

Well, that coaster's opening date is comming up here in a couple of weeks, so that must mean that the coaster is done already and Guinness must have been there. Watch the movie on the site, then tell us that don't have more than 10 inversions.

I'm still thinking Aquatrax, too.

When Jeff poo-pooed my post to that effect a while back, he was attacking the logic I used to get to my Aquatrax conclusion, not necessarily the conclusion itself.

While it could be something else, everything we have seen so far is consistent with an Aquatrax.

Just because the Aquatrax in existence does not have certain elements that seem to be in the works here does not mean that a new Aquatrax could not have elements never done on a previous one.

I wouldn't be surprised also if much of the entire former WWL site ends up under a couple feet of water, either.

Well, it would be nice if the video was a continuous POV instead of a chopped up marketing video. Its impossible to count anything from that.

I don't doubt that its got a lot of inversions. However, if Guinness is now counting 4-D inversions, they need to go have another look at X (which it seems this new ride is pretty much a clone of).

DA20Pilot said:
While it could be something else, everything we have seen so far is consistent with an Aquatrax.

And everything is consistent with another Millennium. We've got some footers, some supports and some track that can be put together in any order.

(Not discounting your idea, I'd like it to be an Aquatrax, just that your logic is still flawed.)

*** Edited 7/11/2006 1:54:55 PM UTC by JuggaLotus***

zskoz3 said:

CP4eva'04 said:
So your telling me that from the track that you have seen that a 500 footer even looks remotely possible. Show me an Aqua Trax with twisted track like you have seen. You haven't. Your right calling there opinions stupid was rude. But lets use logic. If you use logic and common sense you will see that it......

Will be a looper. :)
*** Edited 7/11/2006 4:27:12 AM UTC by CP4eva'04***

If you use logic and common sense you will see that.............your grammar is terrible!

It was late. But do you have anything constructive to add?

Jugga,

My logic is not flawed.

I agree that what we have seen is consistent with other things as well, I never implied that "consistent with" was equivalent to "conclusive evidence of."

My logic was simply to state that we cannot rule out Aquatrax at this time based on what we can see.

Beyond logic, my opinion is that I still wouldn't be at all surprised if it ends up being an Aquatrax

Then I misread you, I apologize.

Yes, everything we've seen is consistent with an Aquatrax.....and a Giga.....and a looper. We don't have enough evidence one way or another to say IT WILL BE "X". (Well, except to say IT WILL BE "Intamin").

IT WILL BE red.

And tan.

Thanks for backing me up on that one Jugga. Like he said, if they were going to count inversions on 4D coasters then they would have already done that with "X".

You can even see on RCDB that they list that coaster with "2" inversions, not 15 or 14 or 13 or however many they claim to have on that website that's in Japanese.

I'm thinking i'll go with Guinness' site that I linked for you until they change it.

*** Edited 7/11/2006 2:59:05 PM UTC by Loopy***

djDaemon said:
IT WILL BE red.

And tan.

http://tinyurl.co.uk/tre2

Yes, really.

Gmoney,

I'm going this Saturday...if it does't rain. Rain pelting me @ 60+mph doesn't feel good. It feels like little spikes hitting the body.

I'll check out everything and see if I can get some information out of the construction workers.

My opinion of the roller coaster being built is that it's nothing super-extravagant, it has twists similar to Raptor & it'll be over 250 feet- but under 300 feet. I also think that it's not going to be that long- about 1 minute and 40 seconds, about 65 mph & fun! The loops, aquatrax, numerous inversions, etc. that everyone's talking about isn't going to happen. I think it's going to be a smaller version of the Millennium Force with twists...that's all.

Mikeybo2004 said:
The supports were not yet on site when he drew that awesome picture. He means that it could still happen, but with tan supports. And I think that would be cool

How could you have not seen the sarcastic nature of my post?

I mean, seriously.

I'm thinking that an Aquatrax is the best choice right now when looking at the track and supports, as well as the fact that this is replacing an old family favorite *WWL*. IMO Loopers aren't that exciting- a lot of people get sick on them, and it really doesn't strike me as something different and "family-oriented." The loop is something that has been around since the seventies, it really doesn't impress people (meaning the general public) like a coaster never seen in the states before.) An aquatrax will provide a ride that the park does not yet have, thus increasing a more diverse portfolio of roller coasters at the park.

I believe the reason they have started construction early, is that a portion of this "Aquatrax" will have a mountain (or Mine, something Western themed) built over it, similar to the one in Korea. This is the only reasonable explanation so far as to why construction has started so early.

I have two questions reguarding the Aquatrax that I have not been able to find the answer to on other websites:

1.) Does the Aquatrax get people wet? According to RCDB the ride is simply a sitdown steel roller coaster that has no water element, but goes over water.

2.) How does the ride launch? I know its an LIM, but does it launch horizontally like all the other launches in the park, or does it launch on an incline similar to "Hulk" at IOA? And does the ride later on have a normal lift hill?

Maybe a majority of you don't know the answer to these questions, but I (and I'm sure others) would appreciate the clarification. Thanks!

lol I think people take things too seriously on this site...I knew you were being sarcastic exit english. I think from now on, if you make a funny, you have to add the ;). Just do it!

i don't see a mountain happening. there would be WAY more footings out there to support the structure of the enclosure. all the footings out there now are definitely in a track layout, not in an enclosure. they're not going to come back later and dig for building foundations either. so, no mountain. and, there's NO possible way you can tell from the track and supports that its an aquatrax. that stuff is all added to the ride afterwards. so, keep dreaming people.

The loops, aquatrax, numerous inversions, etc. that everyone's talking about isn't going to happen. I think it's going to be a smaller version of the Millennium Force with twists...that's all.

Where's your proof that it isn't going to be an aquatrax, numerous inversions, etc.?