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"For some reason, though, I remembered something I’d seen on the Intamin website, so I nosed around and found what I was looking for, I believe in their “News” section: Half-pipe coaster: coming soon. Now I’m not that into extreme sports (one look at my build and you’d guess why), but if I remember correctly a half-pipe is shaped pretty much like a “U,” and a quarter pipe would make a half-“U” shape very similar to an L-Th-B coaster.
""Using my searing intellectual powers, I decided that a half-pipe coaster could very well be “Dragster” with a second top hat/reverse top hat or other element behind the launch. However, that wasn’t good enough for me. Deciding that I still had time to waste, despite a new dog and veterinary school, I opened up No Limits and decided to test my theory (I’ll post a screenshot when I figure out how to do so). I used a 425’ first top hat, 10-car Intamin train (to boost capacity) and tweaked the launch trough trial and error in the Simulator to 115mph. The straightway opposite the launch is about 800-900’ (I don’t know how long the actual site is, so I guessed based on aesthetics), with a ~250’ Xcellerator-style top hat immediately following. The downward twist only goes about 70 degrees and is followed by the brake run, which extends over the midway. Once slowed, the track crosses over the launch and enters another break section parallel to the station before turning in.
"As mentioned before, I tweaked the speed to get it over the first top hat with a minimum of extreme G’s. To my surprise (and this is the meat of my argument), very little speed, 5-10 mph at most, was lost on the back straightaway (Note: No Limits sets the maximum speed for break runs at 60 mph, which would have been way to slow here. As a result, I eliminated the breaks here altogether). Of even greater interest was the fact that the train would crest the 250’ second top hat at around 50-60mph and pull -5+ G’s! While additional element(s) may be taller than this, one of this magnitude is nothing to sneeze at. It has been mentioned before that the brakes after the first tower could be to simply slow the ride down a bit and not actually stop it. This is what the magnetic brakes on Millennium Force do; the train is still stopped by conventional brakes. Now I’m no physicist, but I’ll bet you could calculate about how much braking (fin length and magnetic strength) you’d need to slow a train of known mass traveling at a known speed to a certain speed. Not all of the non-box track would necessarily need to be brake track, as that stretch of track would not be a high stress area anyways.
"I will admit that there is one big problem with this theory: footers. As far as we know, there are no footers that support a non L-Th-B theory. The best counter that I have to this argument is that they may be poured later. I am not a contractor and do not how long the footers would take to cure. However, it may be possible to pour them and let them cure while other work (station, electrical, transfer track, launch, etc.) is being done, and to finish the circuit then. If CP is as into the mystery and secrecy bit as much as they appear to be, I could definitely see them doing this if the cost would not be excessive."
Neal
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"If you don't invest much, than defeat doesn't hurt much, and winning isn't very exciting."
*** This post was edited by Fridge56Vet 10/23/2002 12:45:56 PM ***
http://www.bellingham.fi/huvipuis/halfpipe.htm
It is going to a park in Europe, not the US.
--James
edit: I found the Halfpipe coaster or RCDB. It is being built in Finland. Here's the link.
http://www.rcdb.com/result.htm?column=1,10,3,4,5&order=1,2&contact=8
it is the 6th one from the bottom.
*** This post was edited by UR_coaster 10/23/2002 3:46:47 PM ***
Neal
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"If you don't invest much, than defeat doesn't hurt much, and winning isn't very exciting."
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Love,
The Mole
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Fridge56Vet said:
Oh well, it was worth a shot. Though just becase it isn't a "half-pipe coaster" doesn't rule out elements after the brake track.
------------------Dude.. are you nuts? If it is a brake track.. theres not going to be anything else.
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Ryan McCann said:
Fridge56Vet said:
Oh well, it was worth a shot. Though just becase it isn't a "half-pipe coaster" doesn't rule out elements after the brake track.
------------------Dude.. are you nuts? If it is a brake track.. theres not going to be anything else.
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Not at all. In fact, I think that it is very likely that it will be L-Th-B. While the fact that there is brake track strongly supports this, it does not confirm anything. That's all I was trying to say.
Neal
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"If you don't invest much, than defeat doesn't hurt much, and winning isn't very exciting."
it sounds very similar to wt, but atleast the wt gets launched more than once and is alot longer than 10 seconds.
i also think that if this is all "dragster" is going to be then why did they start building it so early.
http://www.cpthrillology.com/images/1019stairsfortop.jpg
You can people the crown with the top three peices and the pictures of the stairs for the crown and they still don't beleive you.
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