This clip answears A LOT of questions!

It will not open in 2006.

Browns and the Force- He didn't claim to know he just stated a fact that someone with common sense could realize. They aren't even announcing the ride until August. Project 2007 = It will be finished in 2007. Project 2006 = Skyhawk.:)
*** Edited 6/14/2006 4:07:58 PM UTC by redsox5***

TTD 120mph said:
Announcing a ride 2 months before opening then having it open only for weekends during one month sounds illogical and very unlikely. The early construction more than likely is just suggesting a large scale project.

So since more than likely its going to be a large scale project, I dont think that it will be anywhere along this lines of the one on the video. I can almost gaurentee that it will be bigger better and faster than what was on that video. I think that video has the right concept, maby the trains will be like that. but I still think the actuall ride will be diffrent.

Also its only june, and in the staging area there are a few peices of track,and all of them are three rail. Who is to say that they wont even bring in the rest of the major peices this winter? also the area thats being cleared, who is to say that theres not going to be more this fall/winter? I think that this ride is going to be somthing alot more than what we're thinking right now. I still think that we only have half, or maby only a quarter of whats really going on. everything is a teaser, Ya dig?

I've said it before and I've said it again. DROP THE "hurrrr this can't be this kind of ride because the track is only 3-rail" THING. Track type has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with ANYTHING.

No, I do not dig.

e x i t english said:
I've said it before and I've said it again. DROP THE "hurrrr this can't be this kind of ride because the track is only 3-rail" THING. Track type has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with ANYTHING.

That was my Point. just becasue its three rail @ the staging area now, doesnt mean crap. As far as the "ya dig" comment, just an expression. wow. didnt know that a whole post would be dedicated to saying you dont understand...........

Ok sorry for not having common sense. I understand it was a long shot for it to open this year and it is called project 2007 yes I know, but I thought I would throw an idea out there. I'll go back to just reading and not writing with the rest of us.

OK, now that I have watched this video over and over, and the new supports showing up, they really do seem very similiar. Another thing to take a look at is the footers they have poured and the footers in the video, they are also very similiar. Anyone else see this, or am I just a crazy wacked out coaster freak.

Rippin,

Your not crazy - that's exactly what i thought when i first put this thread up here.

but i think some of the people here just don't seem to want to see the similarities...
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You're looking at a video of a coaster halfway around the world, and using the fact that THE COLORS ARE THE SAME to say that CP is getting a coaster similar to that. We haven't even seen the cars for CPs ride, yet you've said this is what we are getting. That one goes over water, and CP's goes over water, so they MUST be getting the same thing.

The clip ANSWERED zero questions except to tell us what Port Aventura is getting in case we didn't already know. But since I wasn't asking that question, its a moot point.

Just because the track is red and the supports are tan does NOT mean that the ride is going to be this ride. And who cares about footers? A lot of the footers on Millennium Force look like the footers that are in the construction area. That doesn't mean that Cedar Point is putting in an exact replica of Millennium Force. By your logic, because the ride is red and tan, it could also be exactly like Iron Dragon before it was painted.

Track and support colors mean nothing. The shape of the track (triangular, box, etc.) means nothing. The "similar footers" mean nothing. Have you ever heard the statement about what happens when you assume?

You finish the rest.

Since this thread already went to pot like a week ago, I guess I can't bring it down by putting this post here.

Just curious -- and this is directed at all you engineers, which I'm not -- but how hard would it be to build a coaster with an elevator-type lift system like MF has, but one completely vertical, so riders are staring straight up on the initial ascent? If it were possible, wouldn't that be the absolute theoretical minimum for a lift footprint? If anybody could build it, it would be Intamin. Also, is there any way without violating basic laws of engineering to accelerate on the lift, turning it into a vertical launch? (I'm guessing it would have to be pretty gentle, else the g's would kill you.) That would be an incredible rush, to launch straight upward, then cresting the first hill with some velocity, like Incredible Hulk at Universal IoA.

I'm not suggesting this is what they're going to build for the Rockford Files ride, excuse me -- Maverick, I get my James Garner TV shows mixed up. I was just curious. And if anybody could answer this question, you guys could.

Its certainly possible, but at what cost.

The other thing that must be considered is evacuation on a vertical lift, not the easiest thing in the world (if not impossible) and if the cable snaps at even 80 feet in the air, thats a long way down.

Possible, but implausible and unnecessary.

Oh well, just an idea. Thanks for the feedback.

JuggaLotus said:
The clip ANSWERED zero questions except to tell us what Port Aventura is getting in case we didn't already know. But since I wasn't asking that question, its a moot point.

The clip gave us another possibility of what P2007 COULD be. Before this people were limiting the type of ride down to a 1. Rocket, 2. Mega Looper, 3. Aqua Trax, and 4. Prototype; Giving those are the types of coasters that Intamin has to offer.

People gave very strong points on why it may not be an Aqua Trax. Some didn't even give the Rocket Coaster idea a chance because we've already got one. Finally, few pointed out that most of Cedar Point's coasters aren't prototypes; They believed that Cedar Point always waits for a new type of ride, and then improves it to make it bigger and better.

Given all of those assumptions that a lot of people made (Although I do not totally agree with them), all that is left is a Mega Looper... and now this. This type of coaster gives us a very believable option to what P2007 may be.

My reasoning does not take into account WHATSOEVER the track color, support color, number of rails, or the other garbage that some feel all assumptions are being made by. I just feel that this type of ride looks to me like a big possibility. However, I still believe that we might be instore for an Intamin Prototype.

Just my logic... take it for what it's worth.

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You're right, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging what a park *COULD* do.

But it's another thing altogether when people are posting what they are saying what a park *WILL* do and have ZERO proof of it.

From what I've seen from the layout of the footers so far, It will have a mostly non-looping layout.

How completly idiotic would it be to have a Hyper layout with big swooping turns and hills and then a loop in the middle? Yeah, gay.

I also have some opinions... It will not have loops. It will interact with water. It will have both a lifthill and a launch(Powderkeg). It will be an Aquatrax. I also believe it will themed to TNT/Dynamite and maybe a landslide or quarry.

I also want to mention that people are take that video to literally, it's just so utterly ridiculous to see people write "OK, now that I have watched this video over and over, and the new supports showing up, they really do seem very similiar. Another thing to take a look at is the footers they have poured and the footers in the video, they are also very similiar. Anyone else see this, or am I just a crazy wacked out coaster freak." Dude, it's a dumb animation. How can even compare that to real life? Honestly, welcome to reality. It says that it's a dumbass animation and dosen't remotly resemble real life. It's purpose is to give an idea of what the trains will look like. Not the layout, not the supports or footers, only the trains... the very ugly trains...

I hope to try to defend yourself so I can make fun of you. Please, tell me the video has a purpose other then to show you what the trains are supposed to look like.

Regarding vertical lift.

What about Demon Drop? The one thing I can say about Demon Drop is that I have never seen it stopped or have I ever been stopped on the lift itself.

I would say that, considering the basic elevator has been around since the 1820's, we have quite a grasp on the technology to make a vertical lift practical for use on a roller coaster.

But what design changes would that bring, and could it cause a serious blocking issue? Trains would have to be fitted with all sorts of fail safe devices, the station would have to be placed a considerable distance from the base of the lift should it need to roll back...

A good idea should it ever be needed to save space. But look at our last "space saver" ride.

That would be a pretty cool concept if there was no room left. but those trains weigh around 20 tons? or somewhere around there. The lift would have to be strong a reliable and there would have to be a lot of backup safety systems in case a cable or chain broke.