The Maverick Mist Thread

what mist there is no mist! heh! no mist give it up! no mist ok?

^Yeah...

They turned this mist off during my launch tunnel rollback during the VIP rides. It got REALLY thick while we sat there for probably 10 minutes.

I've heard its been off and on this season, but I haven't seen it in my 9 visits to CP so far. I'm going tomorrow.. so maybe.

As a few have said, maybe its just on for special events anymore.

As long as its on for BooBuzz 07 I dont care when its on

I didn't notice mist while I was riding, but I noticed that mist shot up from over the water as a train passed when I was watching the coaster later.

If the mist is causing problems for the ride to run properly, then get rid of it, we have had enough problems with TTD (another Intamin ride).

If it's causing problems for the riders...then lose the riders.

Once again, it's always one or two people to mess it up for the rest of us........sad.

Kind of like George Bush huh? The worst president I didn't vote for either time, but I digress....

Please people, it's mist, not anthrax...lighten up :).

Anthrax? Aquatrax? What? :)

Can anyone think of an example ride which uses LIMs and has mist/fog right near them? I couldn't think of one, but that sounds like it has potential for problems.

Maybe if they just put a few machines right at the entrance to the tunnel.

Well, Maverick doesn't have LIMs, it has LSMs. But, to answer your question, California Screamin's launch uses LSMs and has mist all along it's launch - like literally ON the track. So, it can be done.

The issue with Maverick was the mist/fog migrating up into the loading station (since they're connected) and creating minimal to poor visibility in the launch tunnel for manual launches.

^ California Screamin' is LIM.

And they're not only sprayed off by a shower each cycle, they also get hit by waves hitting the rocks next to the launch.

Josh

halltd said:
The issue with Maverick was the mist/fog migrating up into the loading station (since they're connected) and creating minimal to poor visibility in the launch tunnel for manual launches.

No it wasn't. The mist can be turned on/off easily, so in situations where we would have to manually launch the train in the tunnel, we would just turn it off. And as far as mist migrating up into the station, it happened maybe two or three times, and every time it was due to weather conditions.

The problem lies with the fact that the mist is in an enclosed tunnel. Things such as safety features (i.e. fire alarms) and proper ventilation were cause for the mist's permanent removal.

It was turned off for both of my visits this year :(

^^^ I thought during the whole LIM versus LSM conversations, you said California Screamin' was LSM and incorrectly noted on rcdb as LIM? At least that's what I remembered. :)

^^ Another ride op posted on here that the problems were what I noted, so I apologize if that was incorrect. I was just going by what he/she said the problems were.

^ Nope, I told you it was the other way around. It has since been changed to LIM on RCDB, but it was, at one time, listed as LSM.

Ahhhhh. At least I remembered the part about rcdb being incorrect. :) I just didn't realize they changed it to be right. ha ha!

I haven't seen the mist on during any of my rides... but I'm sure its cool.

This is the one thing I really hope CF will get working. I think it will greatly improve that launch. The launch now is great, but it is annoying how there is so much light in there and the lighting effects aren't great. The mist would greatly help things in my opinion.

What kind of problems is could it be causing? I thought it was rumored they were installing fans to get it out of the tunnel when needed. Could they not just have the mist on near the end of the launch tunnel and not the beginning?

I think the problem, based on what Froshy is saying, is that it trips the fire detection systems. This isn't un-heard of as there are many smoke detectors that will go off when they detect steam.

It sounds like the mist has been completely removed from the tunnel.

It's a little strange to me that when designing the fire alarm system they didn't account for the mist/fog. There are definitely different devices you can get to account for known environmental factors. I would think ventilation could be easily fixed too. Just throw some roof vents on the top of the tunnel.

^ Right. If they had some ventilation, I don't get the problem with it building up.

And Jugga, I was saying it would be nice if CP could at least get some mist near the end of the tunnel, as like you are saying, for my rides it was completely off.

^When you have projects as large as Maverick was. There are many different people designing many different aspects of the ride.

The mist is still a work in progress.

^ Well, yeah. But, that's true of anything really. That's what project managers are for. They're responsible for making sure all the pieces work together, or there's a big problem. I'm guessing the mist/fog and/or the fire alarm system was added late in the game and they just didn't coordinate them. I'm not saying it's an easy process, because I know it's not (I do it for a living). But, it should have been thought of.

With only a tiny bit of knowledge of the systems and layout of the tunnel, I could think of maybe 5-6 different options they have. The fire alarm devices would be the only potentially expensive item to "fix".

The true problem with the mist lies in the electrical conduit. Maverick's electrical is not water proof and wasn't originally built for mist, this feature was added later. The electrical when wet was causing shorts in circuits. The other reason is because of the fire alarms like stated earlier. Proper ventilation is needed for the mist.