SV trains

Sollybeast's avatar

So I guess the other trains will be ‘Chess’ and ‘Digger’, then. That ‘signature’ badging is so classy looking. I love it.


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Nope probably gonna be Poker and Old Maid. Card games, duh.

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Cargo Shorts's avatar

52 Card Pick Up

52 Card Round Up sound better for Frontier Town.

Now I want one of the New Texas Giant trains to be called Texas Hold 'Em.

Skyhawk06's avatar

Hey, about the trains, I looked at RMC's website, and it appears the trains don't have seat belts. Is this true for all of the RMC's pretty much? I'm still wondering if I would be able to fit in them though. I wear size 18, and I'm 5'3". I weigh in at 255 lb. Would I be able to, since Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster didn't give me trouble this year?


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I’m pretty sure all RMCs have seat belts. And this is Cedar Point we’re talking about. SV will have seat belts.

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They didn’t have seatbelts until the incident on New Texas Giant where the lady was ejected. All existing RMCs had seatbelts added and they’ve been built with seatbelts ever since. That was a Gerstlauer train, not sure if RMC started making their own trains before or after that incident.


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^The only RMC trains in operation at the time of the TX Giant accident were on Outlaw Run, which opened without belts AFAIK. It got belts after the accident, as did TX Giant and Iron Rattler (TX Giant, and presumably Iron Rattler with similar Gerstlauer trains, also got padding changes) and a bunch of other rides at CF and SF parks that didn't need them and had nothing to do with the accident ride got them purely as a knee-jerk reaction (Giovanola hypers at SF parks, B&M hypers at CF parks... almost everything.)

Do seatbelts make the ride safer? Probably. But they're sometimes applied to rides that don't need them. I generally understand them on RMCs, as bad as they are for dispatch times, but not *every* ride needs a seatbelt.

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Skyhawk06's avatar

Are the seatbelts the size of the ones used on MF and TTD? because if they are, I could probably ride steel vengeance.


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I'd rather be sailing

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kpr66's avatar

The restraints are going to be more of a problem for people than the seatbelts, they're already really restrictive as is and the shin guards certainly don't help


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I rode Outlaw Run before and after belts. Before it was easy with quick dispatch times. Afterwards, and especially early on, they were *extra* careful and had park management on the platform to oversee the operations and give the final go. They weren’t fooling around.
On every RMC I’ve ridden it’s not been an issue with the belts but, as kpr66 mentions, it’s with the restraints. The shin guards have never made me uncomfortable, but the bars are so darned stiff and are angled in such a way that putting them down all the way, especially for a guy of some size, is difficult. Those with no belly whatsoever have a much easier time. Lightning Rod was the worst as the ops were not permitted to assist. It led to five minute dispatches at times while riders struggled. I don’t remember an issue on Storm Chaser but the guys would come along and give that extra push if needed.

Truth told, RMC rides deliver such a forceful ride that I'm glad for any and all restraints. Steel Vengeance over all is a much larger ride with longer, drawn out elements. We’ll see how it plays compared to the others, but I’m so looking forward to a trip down that first drop in the second to the last seat. And I’ll be glad to be buckled in tight.

Yeah, the belts are a dispatch nusiance more than anything when the ride restraint is already keeping you close to the seat. I have more issues with rides where the belts damage the floating-above-the-seat feeling that the ride is *supposed* to provide. (BLUE STREAK.) RMC airtime is so aggressive that the seatbelts don't do all that much to stop it.

“Floating above the seat” is a thing of the past. Even Blue Streak doesn’t offer the experience it once did.
It’s why I prefer un-altered vintage rides over the big modern ones.
An RMC ride with those old straight across lap bars would be deadly.

Skyhawk06's avatar

Isn't the matter of how you fit in a matter of how you carry your weight? Because i'm a pretty big girl, the weight lies in my gut and my thighs. My shins however are fine. Does thigh size in any way make the RMC lap bars any difficult?


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RCMAC said:

“Floating above the seat” is a thing of the past. Even Blue Streak doesn’t offer the experience it once did.
It’s why I prefer un-altered vintage rides over the big modern ones.
An RMC ride with those old straight across lap bars would be deadly.

I said that rides that are designed to allow floating off the seat should allow it. I never said RMCs should have buzz bars; or at least I didn't mean to say that.

RCMAC said:

“Floating above the seat” is a thing of the past. Even Blue Streak doesn’t offer the experience it once did.
It’s why I prefer un-altered vintage rides over the big modern ones.
An RMC ride with those old straight across lap bars would be deadly.

This might be what makes the ride Phoenix at Knoebels so special. You want to float above the seat?! I recommend heading there.

Or maybe coasters that were designed for it should allow it instead of getting restraints that they weren't designed for :P. Because there are a whole lot of coasters out there that were designed with that in mind, and only a few that still consistently allow it.

Blue Streak *should* basically be a shorter version of Phoenix, as should many other unnecessarily neutered rides.. The retractor belts and self-stapling lap bars hinder that.

And by the way, I might be going to Knoebels' this coming summer (Which will probably only make me want to talk about this more...)

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Are we forgetting about all of those poor, innocent lives cut needlessly short when people flew out of coaster trains while floating above their seats?! Thank goodness for today’s safety standards! Oh, wait...

Cargo Shorts's avatar

Anybody have any friends that unbuckle their seat belt on the lift hill? Asking for a friend.

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