Sky Ride Ribbons

To all the people who are "Sick" of seeing those ribbions........ Does seeing a ribbon on a car every day really annoy you? If so then seeing that store on the way to work must annoy you as well. Even your house must annoy you because you see it every day. Hey even the American flag must be going out of style because many people have it on their houses and you see it every day.

The fact of the matter is if you buy a ribbon or anything patriotic you must care somewhere inside you about the U.S.A.
*** Edited 10/7/2005 12:55:05 AM UTC by CP4eva'04***

Well I'm glad I opened this thread up.... /sarcasm

Look, CP can put those there if they want, if you have a problem with it:
1.Don't look at them, the skyride offers a wonderful view of most of the park, and that little sticker isnt taking up a whole lot of it.
OR
2.Park Operations has comment cards you can fill out saying your offended.
Having an arguement about it on a message board is kinda dumb. Regardless of how good of a point is made, somebody is gonna think the opposite.
I know I dont post much, but I'd rather see somebody make a 100000000th thread about whatevers going in next year than see another arguement about the war, when all the person wanted to point out was an addition to the park.

Everybody else expressed their views, so I thought it would only be right if I did too.

OMG. These ribbons are just a sign that we care about the saftey of our troops.

No, they are not. If all the Americans that buy these magnets truly and wholly cared about the safety of our troops, they would not allow the government to send them into harms way unless absolutely necessary. Can anyone tell me that this Iraq situation was an absolute last resort?

.........[silence]... I didn't think so.

People died for all of us to have freedom.

People died to insure we'd get the Patriot Act?

People died for America to be what it is today.

People died for America to be what it should be today. If our forefathers could see us now, even theywould declare war on us.

We don't have to worry about government officials dragging innocent people out in the streets and killing them without a cause.

Except, of course, in other countries where we can turn a profit.

We don't have to worry about people getting stoned to death or shot because they told a lie.

That's correct - instead they get elected to government.

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I'm in favor of patriotism, against those stupid, ugly, magnetic flags.

You people are insane.

You're right - we are all insane. That's all you need to say! Don't worry about trying to substantiate such a claim. Instead of questioning your own views, simply label those who don't agree with you as extremists.

*thinks for a minute... [internal dialogue] hmm... extremists... where have I heard that term before? [internal dialogue/]*

Its sad, really...

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*** Edited 10/7/2005 3:14:13 PM UTC by djDaemon***

TTD420atCp said:
Oh god....everything is made in china.

I realize this, but my point is - something that's supposed to be supporting "America" just doesn't seem right being made in China.

-Josh

*** Edited 10/7/2005 4:18:42 PM UTC by e x i t english***

Leave it up to people in this country to be offended by something like that. I say build a second sky ride, and have it dead end in the lake, and put all the people on here who are 'offended' by that on it.

That's real intelligent. Let's just disregard civil rights, or people who have different views than us, and dump them into a lake.

"Support our Troops" is political. Supporting the troops--in any practical definition of the words--can mean two entirely different things based on your political views. You can support them by fighting for their removal from Iraq, or you can support them by supporting the agenda in Iraq and the belief that they should be there. I think we know where the stickers stand in terms of support, and for those of you who can't see why it might be offensive, I suggest you take a Sky Ride that dead ends in Iraq and take a look at the situation there. Or maybe visit the parent of a soldier who has died there.

I understand the humanity and care behind the stickers. I don't necessarily oppose it. What upsets me is when people are too shallow to see why it might upset others. Stop thinking in the one-dimension and try to step outside yourself for a second.

Oh, and please don't try and tell me the ribbons are directly correlated with the war in Iraq. They didn't pop up out of nowhere. It would be entirely different if we weren't in a time of war. Instead of buying a sticker, why don't you send food/packages to the troops insead of trying to tell me what to think? Maybe because it's political...
*** Edited 10/7/2005 6:58:24 PM UTC by Italics***

I'll make my comment simple.

I think it looks ugly on my ride. I just wonder who's idea it was, if it is from the crew, or higher than that. Either way, its cool, and I support our troops (just not the leader.)

Also, if you are complaining about what they MEAN (I complained about how they look on the ride, ugly,) you are complaining about at least 1 member of its crew this year. I would just like to say thank you for serving our country to him, and you need to put your shirt on! (Sorry, inside joke...)

I guess it wasn't as simple as I had hoped I could be... Oh well. Watch your head and step, and have a Cedar Fantastic Day!

How is me telling you to go jump in a lake a disregard for Civil Rights?

You can support the troops and be against the war. I have family over in Iraq, and support them, eventhough I may or may not support the actual war or the reason we are over there.

What basis do you have for what is going on there anyway? The American media?

I thank soldiers (past or present) anytime I can for their service to our country. That's the ultimate sacrifice for ones country to serve it like that.

Back to my original point - dropping $100 on some ribbons to show some support to the troops over in Iraq was a good, classy move by Cedar Point.

An added point: I hope all of you who are offended by it stay home the rest of the season. It'll give me shorter lines on my last visit.

Blah blah blah.

<sarcasm> Well said, Vince. Well said. </sarcam>

I think Scooter summed it up nice:

Seriously, what kind of statement was that? "Leave it up to people in this country?" Dude, last I checked, "people in this country" have the right to be offended by whatever they choose to be offended by. I suggest you bone up on your American history. Try the Constitution first. It's a good read.

Please, tell me bholcomb, do you support the war? If you don't, I'll refute every point I've made.
*** Edited 10/7/2005 7:46:17 PM UTC by Italics***

Really though the ribbons on the sky ride can't be that big of a deal because I'm willing to bet that 9/10 people won't even notice them.

That is something I am unsure of. I supported the reason why we went in originally - The inspectors had been thrown out of Iraq; it seemed pretty apparent that he had been involved at one time or another. It was also consistently agreed upon across party lines. I also have no doubt that terrorists resided in Iraq (I mean come on, they lived in Florida - what makes you think they weren't in Iraq?)

Obviously, things were not as they seemed. Or maybe they were, and we'll find that out way in the future. But now we are there, and we have changed that country forever, and we cannot just pull out at this point. That would cause more problems for us and them in the long run.

I am not angry at the president about it. He, congress, and many others all had the same opinion - That Iraq was producing mass weapons. You same people would be on his case if he had let things go, and found out Saddam actually had weapons, and he used them on us, or someone else. I applaud him for standing up and acting on something that, at the time, seemed like a threat.

With that said, I am really proud of my cousin. I have been ever since he joined the Army. He is serving his country, and I think a little ribbon on my truck is the least I could do. We've also sent him packages, and we stay in constant contact with him over the internet.

All of that said, I still started this thread to applaud Cedar Point on something small they did which made a good impression upon me. I didn't expect this to turn into a big argument over the war or politics.

Hmm that was very nicely said Ben, kinda changes the whole meaning of this topic when you put it that way.

When you place ribbons on a ride that say "Support our Troops" it's as if you're trying to appeal to those who don't. Who doesn't support our troops--in terms of appreciation and respect? This is why I assume it's political and is correlated with the situation in Iraq. Would we honestly see these stickers around if we weren't currently at war? I don't want anybody to have the impression that I don't support the troops in terms of what they do--what I don't support is what they're over there dying for, and many, including Bush himself, have made the point that you can't possibly support troops if you don't support the cause because the troops need motivation. Doesn't anyone remember Bush saying this over and over in the debates with Kerry?

I think a much more appropriate saying could be thought of--something a little less vague and commanding, and something more directly related to what--you say--is the real message, which I agree with. I appreciate the fact that you care so much about the troops bholcomb. I hope you can understand what I'm saying without it being personal.
*** Edited 10/7/2005 11:17:51 PM UTC by Italics***

I lot of these feelings were had by our parents (and grandparents) during and after the Vietnam War. Our troops got spat on upon their return.

Anyone who remembers that understands.

God, I feel old.

MrScott

ok. so i know what i'm going to say has probably been brought up several times in this thread. but after reading just a few of these responses, i became so aggravated, that i must share my views.

i think that the ribbons are a really sweet touch to Cedar Point. ok. so a lot of people in the country don't support the War in Iraq or President Bush. however, that is no reason not to show your support for the troops who are over there risking their lives for us. so you may not think they are "protecting" us, but that's not the point! there job is to fight for US, for the American people. if you don't appreciate that, then this country is definately more ignorant than i have been thinking. wow. seriously. my cousin has been killed fighting for this country, and for iraq. we are trying to spread our wisdom, our beliefs, in order to help other people!!!! does anybody ever care for other people. so what if they look different. so what if they have different beliefs. they are NOT ALL BAD!!! so many people have died. and i'm not here to argue with you whether this war should have never happened. all i'm saying is if you live in America: The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, it would be nice to show you support for our Country.. for our Soldiers.

so if the ribbons really bother you.. you are living in the wrong country brother!

Italics said:

I appreciate the fact that you care so much about the troops bholcomb. I hope you can understand what I'm saying without it being personal.

ok. so i know you were talking to bholcomb.. but still. it is personal to a lot of people. maybe it doesn't hit you at home.. but it does to me.. and a lot of others. so anything you say.. is bound to be personal and really hurt somebody else. so it would be wise.. just to stop this whole immature argument.