"Record" Breaking?

donald said:
why are you guys so goofy sometimes? there wasnt any more hype with TTD at this same time of the year. This rollercoaster is far more advanced than any other ride has been at this time. how can you say you dont think this ride is going to be very big just because there isnt huge hype on a national scale. wake up! you are clueless dude

My personal comments regarding the lack of national publicity for this ride came in response to similar comments by Walt, who has more information on Cedar Point projects than most of us. Dragster recieved media attention around the same time major ground-breaking had taken place. In that case, it just happened to be fall, although a small area was fenced off before then. Ground broke much earlier on this ride and Cedar Point has already made it clear that the official annoucement is coming soon, unlike the late announcement for Dragster. Although this ride is sure to get a great deal of media attention after the official announcement, it is simply not getting the same pre-annoucement publicity Dragster once had. This lack of attention follows the addition of teaser signs along a clearly viewable construction site, an official Cedar Point blog, and pre-annoucement desktop backgrounds available for download. This time around the media has a lot to play with and they're still not around as much.

I hope the ride will be a record breaker, but I'm thinking it's more likely to hyped based on specific elements than being the biggest or fastest anything. This realism somehow has made me more clueless than the people claiming the ride will be 500 ft. and dive under Lake Erie.


Ensign Smith said:


dj,... Obviously you must not like me or something.

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Is it that obvious?

In response to relevant stuff, see John's post above.

How does that have to do with me???

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Sorry, i dont exactly know how to do this whole copy paste, box in stuff.

yes Blue Streak did broke a records it was the tallest coaster in ohio back in 1964


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Sorry, John mann. I was referring to the other John - aka JuggaLotus.

Going back to what the "GP" knows about the ride, and I use the word GP to describe the once or twice a year park goer, who doesn't know how a lot of things run behind the scenes; the ones who think a train stopped on a lift means the ride broke down.

Of the many times on the train this year, my wife made me bite my tongue a lot to what I was hearing behind me. Teenagers trying to have fun by telling unsuspecting guests that the ride was going to be higher than Dragster. Then they get off the ride and you hear the family that they were talking to discuss the ride telling their kids and everyone else who may have gotten aboard how big the ride was going to be. That's how rumors get started, and its quite maddening.

At least one time while over by the fence, a gentleman stopped to ask me if I knew anything. Of course, I don't, and we discussed the construction area. He mentioned that he had heard 550'. I shook my head in disbelief, and he agreed because he was intelligent enough to see that the turns in the track that had been laid thus far were not meant to be taken at the speeds that even a 300+ foot tall ride would create.

Too bad more people can't see it neither. Its not encrypted.


The only logical way for any park to reach 500ft. would be through some kind of launch which would save room needed for a lift of sorts. But when they do reach that height, I don't believe the park with this particular ride will not use it to it's full potential. They need to find a park that has enough room so a ride of that magnitude could actually do something instead of a 40 second ride. I don't see Cedar Point ever making it to 500, even 400 ft. was a total surprise.

On a side-note: I would be amazed that if in the next 5 years, there is a steel coaster (mainly launched) that reaches 2-3 minute mark...

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Go out your door, go to the nearest mall, and sit on a bench. Ask the first 100 people you see what the word "Maverick" means to them. No one will mention Cedar Point. There is...no...hype.


Promoter of fog.

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Well, those of us who listened to the podcast should finally be able to lay the "hype" idea to rest. Tony himself made it clear that CP has done nothing to hype this ride, and that all of the "to-do" has been created by us, the enthusiasts.

I don't think there is a need to go to 500 feet, because I don't think anyone else will try it. I think the coaster wars are over.

The coaster war is over because it has already been won.

While others were trying to go higher, faster, upside down more, etc...Holiday World quietly put together some of the best coasters around.

In my mind the war is over.


"You can dream, create, design and build the most wonderful place in the world...but it requires people to make the dreams a reality."

-Walt Disney

I think Magnum's #3 ranking this year proves that going higher and faster isn't necessary, building fun rides, is.


Platinum has it's perks. So does living exactly 97.5 miles from King's Island and Cedar Point

JuggaLotus's avatar

Sad part is....Magnum still got robbed.


Of course, if Magnum was robbed, Raptor got bent over.


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John

djDaemon's avatar

And Dragster got lucky.

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It was Dragster doing the bending.


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John

TTDragster, you just like to try and talk like you know everything, but still this has been kept more of a secret than even TTD. at this time when dragster was being built there wasnt much to look at except the tower was about 50' high. this ride already has track all over and you dont have a clue what it is. this leads me to believe its a bigger project than dragster. and by the way it doesnt have to be higher or faster to be a bigger project.

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Well, we'll find out in 9 days.


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John

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So, by "bigger" you're referring to cost?

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If that's the case, then I say nope, this will not be bigger. Or at least the cost for this ride will not be bigger. I think we may see a retheming/rebuilding of Frontier Town that will push the cost of next years total improvements beyond 25 mil. But this one rides portion of that (Including landscaping and "theming") will only be about 15 million.


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John

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I agree.

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