I bet Cedar Point HATES the internet during times like these! They can't even email a guest without the response reaching thousands of people in a matter of minutes. :) Its no wonder they don't normally answer questions like this without a press release.
Well you would think they would just make an annoucement of whats going on as soon as they make their decisions. Now I can understand if they e-mailed someone like one of us and said don't tell anybody. That would probably work out better, depending on the person.
But Tim, if they e-mail one person then why shouldn't everyone know?
Why should one person be privy to information if it's not meant to be kept confidential? If they didn't want people to know the information then don't send out an e-mail to the average guest.
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I would hope they'd still allow multiple entries per day with the pass. It was convenient in the past to be able to go in and out as you needed to. Although I'm probably in the unique set of people that actually leave the park and come back more than once in a day.
As for the question of who in the family has parking on their pass, I've seen a lot of families actually put the parking on their kid's pass. I guess that makes sense if it's always going to be one parent or another taking the kids.
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No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
It's easy to handle re-entry, provided they billboard the policy:
Before you leave, stop at the customer service booth just inside the park gate and pick up a parking re-entry pass, good on the day issued.
No re-entry ticket? That will be $10, please.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
My original plan for the parking decal pass was if the kids were planning a trip to CP, and I work, i'll take a different car to work, so they can go that day, because my daughter drives now, and "mom" most likely won't go without me.
If this pans out like you say, and only one person gets the parking pass, it will go on my (Dad's) pass, and I'll try to upgrade my daughters pass to have a parking pass, which was $10.00 when the add a car to the pass was offered (don't know if that's available now).
If it goes on all 4 passes, that's is perfect for me.
Because we will only use one pass, one day, everytime we go. We never leave the park until we are ready to go home. Once we are there, we stay.
Either all 4 of us go, or me-my daughter-and son go, or me and my son. Never me and my wife, without the kids.
So I hope what you are saying happens, can't wait to find out more.
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You never want to piss off paying customers. Especially if they are season passholders. So, they should be doing everything in their power to make having a pass worthwhile. If its too difficult or confusing to the consumer, they're either going to be upset or not buy it. And, that's a big no-no for a business trying to make money.
I spoke with Mr. McClure today and he seemed pretty salty that Mark posted about the pass policy change. At least that's how I read him. Personally, I think it's rather humorous that he found it odd someone who is a huge CP fan would get an e-mail from the park stating that the policy has been changed and not expect them to tell anyone.
It's possible that you shouldn't release information to the public unless you want it released to the public. I appreciate that Mark posted it here and gave everyone a heads up.
Tim, you are exactly right. If you only knew how right you really are after the conversation I just had with Mr. McClure today. I have a massive problem because CF decided to change their policy 1/2 way through selling something and now they don't want to help out a season pass holder at all. They'll gladly refund money, which I found interesting. They'd rather lose a patron all together than discount something a few dollars. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens next week to decide if you'll see me at the park this year or not.
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That's when you get the refund and go back and order the pass the way you want it. :)
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I'm not surprised he was upset his response so a single guest made it to the internet. Most people don't expect personal email correspondence to be distributed to the entire world. I get email responses from CP sometimes and I don't post it all online because I don't think they want it out there. Its all a personal judgment thing.
However, they're going to just stop giving guests information like that if it keeps getting "leaked" out. I'm not saying Mark shouldn't have posted the info, because I'm sure CP didn't tell them it was not "official" yet. But, I can see where CP is coming from.
I think he had every right to post the info, if CP did not want it out they either should not have said anything to Mark, or have told him in the message not to reveal it.
So it is completely CP's fault for the information getting out. Even if they had just said that the decision was not final yet, that would have been enough.
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Tim makes some excellent points.
If they don't want everyone to know, they won't tell anybody.
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^ They didn't tell everybody though. They told one person. If they wanted everybody to know, they would've posted it on their website.
^Thanks Loopy.
halltd said:
^ They didn't tell everybody though. They told one person. If they wanted everybody to know, they would've posted it on their website.
Again... If they didn't want everyone to know, they wouldn't tell anyone. It's pretty much all or nothing. Freedom of speech baby. ;)
If they didn't want you to say something that they told you, they would need to either specificaly ask you not to repeate it or have some kind of disclaimer or something.
Loopy said:
I spoke with Mr. McClure today and he seemed pretty salty that Mark posted about the pass policy change. At least that's how I read him.
My only contention is that, we are assuming that Loopy's assumption of Mr. McClure being upset is true. (I'm not saying he wasn't) However, the only reason I could see for him to be upset was if Mr. McClure specificaly asked Mark not to say anything. And IF Mr. McClure didn't want Mark to say anything, why did he tell Mark in the first place? It doesn't make sense.
*** Edited 2/10/2007 2:21:37 AM UTC by Jason Hammond***
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It was really interesting how our conversation started. I received a call from Brenda at PKD and discussed with her the situation where she told me I needed to contact CP about the issue. I knew this already but Brenda was actually returning a message from last December that I left her. I knew already that I needed to speak with Mr. McClure pertaining to this.
I called Mr. McClure and explained the situation where he promptly told me that he saw my post on here. I said, "Oh, you read Pointbuzz?" He replied with, "I do now since I found out I was being quoted on it." So someone made him aware of the quote and I don't think I had to read too deeply to see that he wasn't entirely happy with it.
Again, Mr. McClure sent an e-mail to a GP patron who sent in a question about the parking pass policy. What's it matter if that patron belongs to this group of people or they belong to the NRA and they informed all their friends in that group about the news? It's rhetorical, no need for a response.
He can only hold himself responsible for sending the e-mail. I don't think anyone here needs to "stick up" for him. If Mark had some standing rapport with Mr. McClure or CP pertaining to unreleased information then I could even try to understand but as it is, I would have done the same as Mark.
EDIT: Tim, I realize he sent an e-mail to Mark specifically, but how many others did he send e-mails to letting them know about the new policy? Just because others he may have made aware of the situation don't belong to an online fan community doesn't mean they didn't go tell people in their blogs or forums too. It just so happens Mark's the lucky one here and he was nice enough to share the information.
*** Edited 2/10/2007 4:43:08 AM UTC by Loopy***
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I’m surprised Cedar Point doesn’t have some sort of confidentiality notice tagged on to the end of their e-mails. They usually say something like- “The information contained in this email intended only for the use of the individual addressed. Copying is strictly prohibited.”
It seems most business e-mails I’ve seen from individuals within a company (not general sales related mail) have this tagged on to the end.
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Edit:
Ironically my post was accidentally deleted by Walt, kind of funny actually.
Of all people's posts to accidentally delete it had to be mine, no hard feelings Walt, sorry to jump on ya like that. :)
*** Edited 2/10/2007 8:28:38 PM UTC by Loopy***
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