Millie to celebrate 10th birthday next year.

Why bother? How'd that last record breaker work out? Only took, what three years to get it working reliably? Coasted enthusiasts don't count for jack in deciding to build a ride.

It's a good bet that gigas like I-305 are about as tall as coasters are ever going to get again. In fact, at some point parks won't even be building those. As the costs of steel and energy climb over the next decade or so, the level of investment required for an attraction like that simply isn't going to have a return high enough to make economic sense.

I heard they're fishing out the green train and restoring it for year 10.

I heard they're painting the ride black and calling it Millennium Anti-Force. And adding fire and lights to it. ;)

I wouldn't mind seeing the green train back in operation, though. Especially seeing as I've never actually seen it in person. :)

Do you know how awesome it would be to have the park buy a car or two from a green MF train, and put them in the Frontier Trail ala the spaceship in front of Coasters? It would hands-down be one of the best scenes they could put up.

I think they would fish the green train out, especially for the anniversary. This would mean that more people would ride it and less waits :)

Jeff said:
Why bother? How'd that last record breaker work out? Only took, what three years to get it working reliably? Coasted enthusiasts don't count for jack in deciding to build a ride.

I don't consider TTD a true record-breaking sequel to MF. I consider it like half roller coaster / half thrill ride...like Power Tower with roller coaster elements.

Thus, MF was a true sequel to Magnum, and the true record-breaking sequel to MF will need to be a full blown roller coaster of varied elements and 2+ minute ride time.

And I'm not saying it makes for the best investment (though I consider MF and Magnum to be great investments), but rather I can't wait for the excitement of that next sequel. TTD was exciting, but not as exciting as opening year of MF for me, as it just wasn't a full-blown roller coaster to me...

What difference does it make about what you think is a sequel? That has nothing to do with the business decisions in play.

Has Tony said anything about what they are doing for the anniversary, if anything?

I'm sure this early into it, he would not know. Only those in P&D and Maintenance would know specifics about doing anything to the ride like painting it. Now he might know what the marketing might be for its anniversary but I am sure it won't be much different than the way they marketed Magnum on its 10th.

Millennium had a green train? Didn't know that....spiffy. I'm on board for a MF paint job in 2010...let's get it back to royal blue :)

Ah, the old green train. I myself only got to ride it three or four times in the first year....

Pain it black and then get the bright green train out. Now that would be a good looking coaster.

If they painted it black, it would be faded to gray in approximately a year. Poor Top Thrill is looking a little (or a lot) faded...pink and pastel yellow.

Jeff said:
What difference does it make about what you think is a sequel? That has nothing to do with the business decisions in play.

Again, are you trying to argue for the sake of arguing or what (confused)? I never said anything about my excitement or what I think is a sequel being the most sound business decisions.

I said that I remember the day that MF was opened, and it's an unforgetable memory, being a huge fan of roller coasters. Also, that I can't wait for the day when CP gets back to its glory and builds another full-blown record-breaking roller coaster.

If you want something to debate with me though, it WILL eventually be the best business decision for the park to build another record-breaking roller coaster. There's a reason why CP is voted the best amusement park on the planet, and it's not because of their food quality or family attractions.

They've built their reputation on having world-class roller coasters, and plenty of them. Strip all the record-breaking roller coasters away from CP, and you'd be left with a park that wasn't such a stand-out. Thus, maybe it will be 5 years...maybe 50 years, but it will eventually be the best business decision to build what I consider a true sequel to Millenium Force.

i was watching the travel channel--there is a coaster

in germany called the ring racer that goes 0-180 in 2.5

seconds, plus the ride is true coaster length of at least

3 minutes. i wonder if removing MS would make enough

room for something like this.

I hope not Millie is a sweet ride!

^^ It is 3980ft of track in 85 seconds. You are off by one minute-thirty-five seconds!

Not 180 MPH either. http://rcdb.com/4161.htm

Ffej said:
If you want something to debate with me though, it WILL eventually be the best business decision for the park to build another record-breaking roller coaster.

No, it won't. That ship has sailed. Building a record-breaking coaster does not translate to increased revenue anymore, in part because the expense is so high to break a record. Millennium Force was the last ride to truly justify its cost while breaking records. Dragster had the initial cost, plus the rebuilds and high cost of maintenance and the bad PR that came from it not being open half the year. It was a disaster that had no significant material effect on attendance.

Let go of your voted this or that stuff. It makes no difference. The only thing that drives butts through the gate in quantity is a proper value proposition for people living primarily in the Detroit and Cleveland markets. Record breaking coasters do not demonstrate that value or offer the return on investment.