MF Cars
Earlier this week, the yellow train was in the main parking lot in front of Blue Streak.
It will be moved to an on-point warehouse in the near future, if it hasn't been done already. (please, keep it out of the elements :) )
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Tyler Adams
Cedar Point Web
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It will be moved to an on-point warehouse in the near future, if it hasn't been done already. (please, keep it out of the elements :) )
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Tyler Adams
Cedar Point Web
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I have seen and sat in the cars and they do infact have stainless steel on them. The train that I saw really is beautiful and is worth waiting to see. I would love to show you all pictures but after the little incident with the Feel The Force in 2000 website I don not think that it would be a good idea to show pictures yet. A word of adice to those of you who have seen my pictures or other pictures BE CAREFUL to who you show them to. Trouble can arise. Take it from someone who knows!
Oooh yeah, wouldn't want the big secret of what the trains look like to get out-maybe we'll be blind folded when we ride the damn thing too. Who the hell cares, if someone has the pictures, grow a pair and put them on an angelfire website or something.
Of course, whoever has them could be lying!! Wow,what a concept, I can say I have seen alien craft at area 51 and have pictures but "want to divulge this info for fear of stepping on any toes or myself losing my access to this info..These pics are not public info yet and I don't want to get in trouble..I am checking to see if it would be alright..IF the answer is yes then I will post a pic on my site for viewing at a later time..but for now please understand that I just don't want to tick any one of or for that matter run into any trouble!!" as quoted by the so called photographer. IF there are many people up there, how will they know who took them if you put them on an anonymous website.
Of course, whoever has them could be lying!! Wow,what a concept, I can say I have seen alien craft at area 51 and have pictures but "want to divulge this info for fear of stepping on any toes or myself losing my access to this info..These pics are not public info yet and I don't want to get in trouble..I am checking to see if it would be alright..IF the answer is yes then I will post a pic on my site for viewing at a later time..but for now please understand that I just don't want to tick any one of or for that matter run into any trouble!!" as quoted by the so called photographer. IF there are many people up there, how will they know who took them if you put them on an anonymous website.
For those of that do have pictures it is almost like a privilage that we saw the cars. For the most part if a picture appears on the internet they can and will track the person down. That is what happned with with "Feel The Force in 2000" Cedar Point did not too much out and about about the project. They only wnated people to see what they could see from the web cam. In all honesty Rob Henry you just do not understand how secrative this park is and they will find out by all means neccisary a to whom is posting pics. That is why my website is no longer in service. I had more than the official site, and they wanted more control over my site. It just happens that I know EVERY one of the marketing representatives and I know that they do not want to see them out. When I saw the train they said that these pics were not for the internet. Believe it or not it is a big deal. They constaltly look at this site and all they have to do is look at WHO post the pic, click on info, e-mail you and then they know who you are and where you are.
Trust Me!
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Ready, Clear! Enjoy your ride on Millennium Force.
Trust Me!
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Ready, Clear! Enjoy your ride on Millennium Force.
Rob: You seem to have a lot of anger about this subject. I don't think you understand what's at stake here.
The relationship of coaster enthusiasts with parks is shaky right now at best. This situation got so ugly that the president of ACE (American Coaster Enthusiasts) sent a letter to members asking that they back off the parks' marketing staffs. Apparently members were phoning and e-mail bombing PR reps asking for invited to their media days, special tours and other perks.
Make no mistake, the parks don't need us. Coaster enthusiasts account for such an incredibly small percentage of their guests that if they stopped catering to them, it wouldn't matter.
However, there is some public relations value in working with these people. Many of them are colorful characters (literally, in the case of Jerry :)), and they make for interesting copy in newspapers. This year Jerry, our very own Magnum addict Dan and another guy made the front page of the Sandusky Register. Free publicity for the park centered around the ultimate fans.
But these fans don't expect or think they deserve the attention. I don't think I deserve anything for the site either. However, if any of us were to release these photos, you can be sure that we would have no more opportunities to do site tours, attend special events, etc. (especially because one of our members here is an employee). The sources that give us qualified rumors would no longer be sources. The end result: We would be more in the dark than ever.
You have to play the game. For every action, there are consequences.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
The relationship of coaster enthusiasts with parks is shaky right now at best. This situation got so ugly that the president of ACE (American Coaster Enthusiasts) sent a letter to members asking that they back off the parks' marketing staffs. Apparently members were phoning and e-mail bombing PR reps asking for invited to their media days, special tours and other perks.
Make no mistake, the parks don't need us. Coaster enthusiasts account for such an incredibly small percentage of their guests that if they stopped catering to them, it wouldn't matter.
However, there is some public relations value in working with these people. Many of them are colorful characters (literally, in the case of Jerry :)), and they make for interesting copy in newspapers. This year Jerry, our very own Magnum addict Dan and another guy made the front page of the Sandusky Register. Free publicity for the park centered around the ultimate fans.
But these fans don't expect or think they deserve the attention. I don't think I deserve anything for the site either. However, if any of us were to release these photos, you can be sure that we would have no more opportunities to do site tours, attend special events, etc. (especially because one of our members here is an employee). The sources that give us qualified rumors would no longer be sources. The end result: We would be more in the dark than ever.
You have to play the game. For every action, there are consequences.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
Rob..you done a excellent job of reprinting my quotes their buddy..I see you can use the little function called reading and cutting and pasting..intelligent..I'm impressed..I advise you to read what Jeff and Banshee said above because ALL IS TRUE and therefore I don't have to pull one of your tricks and reprint or rehash whats already been said..Some of us do have some access ..so what..and yes have pics..so what..WE WOULD LOVE to show these pics to CP lovers like ourselves..(probably even you) but WILL NOT for fear of losing these privlages.."My pair" as you so elegantly put it are present and intact thank you but for us to print or publish privlaged material that CP has asked us not too is not only wrong but infringment..by doing so we not only jeopradize the info we have access to to bring to thankless people like yourself but we also risk legalities too..SO please used that lump sitting on your shoulders for something other than spouting insults at people who like the rest on this board love CP and just want to bring the info in a straight way!!
I'll get off my soapbox now and deposit my $.02
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Jeffrey Spartan
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I'll get off my soapbox now and deposit my $.02
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Jeffrey Spartan
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Wow - and I'm not even a moderator...
I think this problem is a two-part problem.
Part of it is that yes, we want to see the pics and it's hard to wait. (especially when people here have seen them)
However, part of it is the tendency towards greater-than-thou elitism on the part of some members here. Granted, some of this is warranted by authority (Jeff, Dan, to an extent OTTim), but some of it is not. Frankly, the constant hints of 'things to come' get annoying. If you don't have any info that you can share, don't say you do but can't say. Frankly, that's just taunting and is childish. We know you have ins w/ CP. We understand that. But don't gush over how you saw this and how you saw that - when you know darn well that we can't see it.
Oh, and about large e-mails - we're just trying to help. We don't know about your grand plans - you didn't tell us.
I think this problem is a two-part problem.
Part of it is that yes, we want to see the pics and it's hard to wait. (especially when people here have seen them)
However, part of it is the tendency towards greater-than-thou elitism on the part of some members here. Granted, some of this is warranted by authority (Jeff, Dan, to an extent OTTim), but some of it is not. Frankly, the constant hints of 'things to come' get annoying. If you don't have any info that you can share, don't say you do but can't say. Frankly, that's just taunting and is childish. We know you have ins w/ CP. We understand that. But don't gush over how you saw this and how you saw that - when you know darn well that we can't see it.
Oh, and about large e-mails - we're just trying to help. We don't know about your grand plans - you didn't tell us.
Bill..i can see and respect your point totally..However I never in any of my posts made anything public on this or any other forum that I had pics..just merely that I had seen them..it was the overwelming amount of emails after I mention seeing them that I got (over 30) that prompted me to say I cannot send anything..I never gushed as you put it or bragged or taunted!! I really hate the fact that these can't go public and those of us that you think have ins really don't have that much access as you may think..Again I understand your points and can realte to them by putting myself in your position but please don't class me as someone who is taunting..I think if you read my prev posts in this thread there was never any "god almighty" attitude about anything I said..and if anything it was my extreme urge to want to share this info with you so we were all on a even plane together and then would of had the same access and knowledge..To summarize it all...."Can't we all just get along" and "I love you man!!" lol to quote those wondeful Bud light commercials... Take care and I hope everyone has a joyous and safe new yr/century!!
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Jeffrey Spartan
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Jeffrey Spartan
First to Jeff-I don't recall any of us being invited to special tours, going in the park when it is closed,etc. Maybe this was for certain web site managers but not the rest of us. Don't get me wrong,I am glad you got in and posted the pictures but don't make it sound like we will all be losing a lifetime of information or events to go to.
Second-To the so called photographer-learn proper grammar and get a spell checker.I find it hard to believe they would put up pictures of the trains, a web cam,a complete ride layout and stats if they were that secretive.
Come on, anyone ever heard of net zero? Anonymous posting? Does anyone know how not to put their real name or id in these? Don't act so stupid, what will they do to you-make you wait in line an hour longer, if they don't want pictures being taken, they shouldn't let anyone in. The government doesn't want pictures of top secret military bases or equipment being taken either-that's why they don't let people parade in there with cameras. My point is that if CP doesn't want the pictures being seen-they wouldn't permit them to be taken.
If you don't want people like and Bill getting annoyed with your childish "I have it and you don't" or the "I'll let you see but then I have to kill you" type posts, keep it to yourself until either you really get some pictures of something up there or actually learn how to post them.
Second-To the so called photographer-learn proper grammar and get a spell checker.I find it hard to believe they would put up pictures of the trains, a web cam,a complete ride layout and stats if they were that secretive.
Come on, anyone ever heard of net zero? Anonymous posting? Does anyone know how not to put their real name or id in these? Don't act so stupid, what will they do to you-make you wait in line an hour longer, if they don't want pictures being taken, they shouldn't let anyone in. The government doesn't want pictures of top secret military bases or equipment being taken either-that's why they don't let people parade in there with cameras. My point is that if CP doesn't want the pictures being seen-they wouldn't permit them to be taken.
If you don't want people like and Bill getting annoyed with your childish "I have it and you don't" or the "I'll let you see but then I have to kill you" type posts, keep it to yourself until either you really get some pictures of something up there or actually learn how to post them.
BIG NEWS!!!
I just stormed the beach up there with a boat and put the ride completely together real quick with a few spare nuts and bolts I had laying around. I then turned it on and took a picture going over the first hill. I also put magnum trains on it as well as raptor trains (boy that was fun to strap into) and rode them for a unique experience. I have pictures of all these-honest engine!
My whole point in this is even if you do have pictures, keep your mouth shut until you are prepared to show them. Don't annoy or try to impress us with your "privileges". The fact that you even posted that you had them but cannot show them is merely to taunt the rest of the group. Why else did you do it? I can say I have pictures of Elvis living with me but no one can see them and it would be purely to gain attention-nothing else.
I just stormed the beach up there with a boat and put the ride completely together real quick with a few spare nuts and bolts I had laying around. I then turned it on and took a picture going over the first hill. I also put magnum trains on it as well as raptor trains (boy that was fun to strap into) and rode them for a unique experience. I have pictures of all these-honest engine!
My whole point in this is even if you do have pictures, keep your mouth shut until you are prepared to show them. Don't annoy or try to impress us with your "privileges". The fact that you even posted that you had them but cannot show them is merely to taunt the rest of the group. Why else did you do it? I can say I have pictures of Elvis living with me but no one can see them and it would be purely to gain attention-nothing else.
I will never share info again about Cedar Point on a Cedar Point informational forum..that would be wrong of me...Kidding..I won't let one soul cloud my mind...Oh rob..thats why this world is such a wonderful place..we all have the right to our own opinions..enough said and cheers to you buddy..If you can read this I learned how to post too!!
My whole point in life is to impress you Rob..Is it working..Give me a break are you that upset about this really?? Go worry about Y2k..that seems like a better thing to put your energy into huh??
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Jeffrey Spartan
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My whole point in life is to impress you Rob..Is it working..Give me a break are you that upset about this really?? Go worry about Y2k..that seems like a better thing to put your energy into huh??
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Jeffrey Spartan
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Closed topic.