Mean Streak, next to go??

noggin said:

People tend to engage with people who share their interests. No one I know supports Donald Trump, but it's pretty likely he'll be the Republican candidate for president. It's likely that people you talk to share your disdain for the coaster.

The difference is that Donald Trump is leading in a nationwide primary and MS is the equivalent of Jeb Bush. You are delusional if you think People think MS is great. The only thing saving MS is its size and the fact that it really is not that old for a coaster. Something will happen soon though.

Never said Mean Streak was great, nor that I thought "People" think it's great. And I was making no comparison of coasters and politicians. (By the way, there's no such thing as a "nationwide primary".)

If I made a list ranking the coasters at Cedar Point, Mean Streak would be somewhere around the middle.

Read what I wrote. "People" tend to have friends who share their opinions.

I think another way of putting it is that people on here are like a special interest group and don't necessarily reflect the opinion of the public at large.

Agreed. Probably 95% of park visitors wouldn't even consider the idea of altering or demolishing the coaster. That said, it would probably spark a new interest in that area of the park were something new to go back there.

Noggin, you would make a great politician.

Problem is that even though you could build 2 or even 3 roller coasters in the plot of Mean Streak it won't happen. Cedar Point hasn't and will never build 3 coasters at the same time. But if they did they wouldn't have to tear down Mean Streak to do it. There is still plenty of land to build on.

It might be seen as a problem to you that you don't like the ride, but there are people on the ride. So it is serving it's purpose. I don't really think there are guests at the park who are having a hard time finding a ride that they don't dislike to ride. So really tearing it down or rmc'ing the ride doesn't increase anyone's happiness any more than building a dive coaster.

The logic of doing anything to Mean Streak isn't there to me. There are people in the line or on the ride that are enjoying it and are happy that not everyone else does. They don't have to wait in a long line. But is there anybody at the park that leaves unhappy because Mean Streak exists as it is? I highly doubt it. Who's fault is it if you go to a park that has 16 coasters and you end up riding the one you don't like instead of one you like? Go ride a different one.

I would really love an RMC, but I wouldn't mind getting a restoration such as Ghost Rider at Knott's either.

I would like to see an RMC at the park, but I'm not sure if I would like to see it on MS or a brand new one built from scratch. Lightning Rod looks like it will be good, I'll wait to see the reviews on that one, but with RMC's track record, I'm sure it will be amazing. I think a good brand new RMC could go in STR's footprint.

Lightning Rod looks amazing! I really hope they figure out that launch mechanism soon, because I wanna take a trip down there in April.

95% of park visitors do not re-ride meanstreak.

95% of park customers do not ride Kite Eating Tree, yet there it is.
Your point means nothing.

I think the Mantis/Rougarou conversion is evidence enough that if ridership is low enough (which come on.. we all see it in the line and the numbers that are occasionally released) and if the ROI is there, the park will do something with the ride. Either remove it (StR), convert it, or GCI reprofile like Ghostrider. I would hope for the RMC conversion to be honest.

Personally, I believe Mean Streaks days are numbered in the park. May be 1 more season may be another 5 or 10. But I don't see it in the park in its current form much longer. I think the extremely low ridership (compared to other rides of equal size) and presumably high maintenance cost for a wooden structure of that size must have the park looking for other opportunities. I don't believe Ouimet is the type of leader who would just sit on an attraction for coaster count like Kinzel did.

cpfourlife1 said:

Noggin, you would make a great politician.

I would be the best, the greatest politician ever, because I have a great brain and I talk to a lot people. :-)

noggin said:

cpfourlife1 said:

Noggin, you would make a great politician.

I would be the best, the greatest politician ever, because I have a great brain and I talk to a lot people. :-)

You can make politics great again!

Make CP great again and RMC or replace Meanstreak ;D

My money is on Iron Dragon being the next to go. There are several reasons why (in the way of Luminosity expansion, maintenance costs of a basically retired type of coaster, height requirement change to exclude families, etc). The band-aids they put on Mean Streak have been there for a long time now. Long enough that they have chosen to remove/replace 3 other coasters instead.

However, that may not happen for several years. With Shoot the Rapids gone, its former land becomes the prime spot for the next major attraction.

I also think a dark ride will eventually be built to replace some of the picnic shelters (the former Fear Faire location).

XS NightClub said:
95% of park customers do not ride Kite Eating Tree, yet there it is.
Your point means nothing.

And comparing a kiddy ride to a major coaster means that you don't understand.

Augustmueller said:
95% of park visitors do not re-ride meanstreak.

This is another way that Disney's Magic Bands are a huge asset. They can see what demographics are riding which rides, which rides are pulling repeat riders, etc... So much more detail than just turnstyle clicks.

Is Mean Streak popular? Sure, people ride it. But do they return to it? I usually only ride it when I can't talk a first time visitor out of it, because it LOOKS awesome.

Really?? You think Iron Dragon may be the next to go? I honestly could see MF, Maverick, or TTD going long before Iron Dragon. ID is one of those beginner coasters that is VITAL to attracting new amusement park enthusiasts. Get rid of ID and what do you have? CCMR?

It's not about what ID offers, it's about the reality of the industry. When parts become obsolete and maintenance costs outweigh the benefits of keeping a ride, the ride must come down. ID will likely meet it's demise long before MF or Maverick. Now, TTD is another story.

Cedar Point can always build a new roller coaster targeted towards families. I'm really impressed with Verbolten (ironically also replaced a suspended coaster in Big Bad Wolf) at Busch Gardens and would like to see something like that in the future.