Mean Streak?

MS had a pretty decent wait today of about 15 to 25 today. The ride still rattled my bones. I do love the queue though under the coaster. Nice and shaded.

I went yesterday for Father's day and MS had about a 10 min wait, had full trains for the most part, but what surprised me the most was when the train entered the station, the people who just rode were hooting and hollaring like it was MF or something ;-)

Maybe they had a trim-brake free ride ;)

I've rode a few times this year, and three random times, I've been paying attention when my train leaves the station, and slows down almost to a complete stop in the transfer track area, but does still keep moving. Every ride when it does this, the trim brake has been off. All other times when there is no slowing of the train in the transfer area the trim brake on the top has been on. I'm not sure if its something with timing, or what would cause this. Any ideas?

Maybe Dinn actually used technology for one and weighed the trains on the transfer track?

redsfan said:

Renegade, you wouldn't still have Mean Streak. Cedar Point would still have Mean Streak. There is a difference. You don't have to ride it. You can ride the many other coasters.

I sure as hell am happy Cedar Point doesn't follow your weird logic or I'd have to ride Disaster Transport instead of Gatekeeper, a log flume instead of Maverick, Mantis instead of Rougarou, a kiddy car ride instead of Valravn, Leap the Dips instead of whatever new ride was built there, etc. Your reasoning is made worse by the fact that Mean Streak is in no way a "Classic woodie" as your other comments make it out to be. It was built in 1991 and has nothing extraordinarily memorable about it besides its support structure being large. Without constant inovation and replacing boring rides with exciting ones Cedar Point would not be close to the mecca of roller coasters that many believe it to be. White Water Landing was a ride liked by many people too but I don't think anyone's complaining about it being replaced by arguably a top 15 steel coaster. An RMC'd Mean Streak would have more than enough potential to reach that level and it would replace a much worse ride.

I saw a few new stakes in the ground with pink tape when I was driving by to Soak City. Is this the only area in the park where we're seeing markers?

I sincerely hope that Cedar Point hangs on to this ride as it is since it was a record breaker when it opened. As far as the PTC trains go, those can be gone yesterday as they are the only ride vehicle that is miserable to anyone more than 5'10" tall.

It's been retracked recently and I think a nice investment in GCI trains would do the ride some justice. I would hope that the trim brake on the first hill could go if they ever switched to GCI trains.

Due to the historical nature of the Blue Streak, I would not be in favor of ditching the PTC trains.

How would different trains make the layout suck less? :-)

Or why does it need to be preserved because at one time it was a record breaker? That doesn't make it a good ride.

I also remember reading at one point that the Millennium Flyer trains can only go on rides that GCI has tracked due to the track gauge. Not sure if there is merit to that or not. Either way, if you are keeping the ride as a traditional wooden coaster, slapping different trains on it does not fix it.

Maybe if it got the complete GCI makeover like the ride at Knott's Berry Farm .... ?

I like the Iron Horse treatment of other rides, but, since MS is the only major woodie at CP, I would like to see the park remain faithful to the ride's initial premise.

I'd rather see the park more concerned with making the rides they have more enjoyable than simply keeping something the same way because, well, it was built that way. Taking something that was built wrong, and altering it to make it better is a winning situation for both guests and the park - regardless of whether or not the enthusiast community thinks a coaster is wood, steel, or widget...

Cartwright said:
Or why does it need to be preserved because at one time it was a record breaker? That doesn't make it a good ride.

It doesn't, look at Son of Beast.

wingsenforcer said:

Maybe if it got the complete GCI makeover like the ride at Knott's Berry Farm .... ?

GhostRider was a good coaster prior to GCI's work. MS doesn't even have a good layout, so even if the track were perfect, it would still be underwhelming.

...I would like to see the park remain faithful to the ride's initial premise.

If their initial premise was to build a good ride, then that ship has long since sailed. Best to cut their losses, RMC MS, and build a proper wood coaster somewhere else in the park.

wingsenforcer said:
As far as the PTC trains go, those can be gone yesterday as they are the only ride vehicle that is miserable to anyone more than 5'10" tall.

I am 6'2" and don't think the Mean Streak trains are that bad. Mine Ride trains are much worse. Just my 2 cents.

operative_me said:
I am 6'2" and don't think the Mean Streak trains are that bad. Mine Ride trains are much worse. Just my 2 cents.

You're right, the CCMR trains are terrible. My knees always hit against the back of the row in front of me on MS.

@ 6'3" all PTC trains, featuring side mounted lap bars, are my enemy.

It's my guess that Millennium Flyer trains ride on a standard gauge. It wouldn't make sense to expect a wanting customer to regauge their coaster for new rolling stock.

I love GCI. I really love MF trains. Sorry, MS needs more than that. If meanstreak were demolished and a lemon chill stand was put in its place, I'd be happy. It may have broke records a quarter century ago, now it's only breaking vertebrae.

Pete said:

It doesn't, look at Son of Beast.

You don't have to look that far.
Avalanche Run, Shoot the Rapids 1.0, White Water Landing, Jumbo Jet, all "record setters" and all gone now.

A GCI could turn Mean Streak into a top 5-7 coaster in the park, best case scenario. That's assuming they make the layout not suck somehow.

An RMC could realistically turn Mean Streak into the best coaster in the park.

Whether it's wood or steel doesn't matter much to me. I want the best possible version of this ride, RMC offers that.

RMC could make Mean Streak better than Maverick or MF? No one has nearly enough fairy dust & unicorn powder to accomplish that.