Mantis death ??

....over on peanut's playground Elmer Fudd fell out of the hot air balloons and suffered a lacerated lung. Thus the stutter.

Elmer Fudd...funny stuff.

There were actually two non-ride related deaths on the WildCat. One in '94 and another a year or two later. Just some tragic irony that the WildCat was involved both times.

Long Hair + Power Tower = Bad Idea. ;)

Please don't get THAT one started again!

MrScott

There have been people who have had other health problems in lines at CP, like the case in '94 mentioned above, but no deaths as the result of riding, or being on, a ride.

People have had heat strokes, heart attacks, etc etc.. but never hurt from a ride.

Cedar Point has the one of the best records - If not THE best - for safty. Six Flags - St. Louis, Not so much..... 3 died when the cable car fell in 79. Their first attempt at a Stand Up coster ( The Rail Blazer ) resulted in 1 death and complete ride removal - after about 2 months of service. That was in 83 or 84. The woman was about 5ft tall and weighed about 300 lbs. The bar that held you in at the waist didn't latch completely and she fell out -- The ride picked up a bad nickname after that - The Hoosier Hurler!

GeeForce said:
False. No one has died at Cedar Point due to a ride-related issue, if I'm not mistaken.

RideAccidents is good for this kind of information, if you're interested.

While I have not been able to find documentation online, I remember when I was a kid there was an accident on the corkscrew. Somewhere around 1980, give or take a year or two. Saw it on the local news in Detroit. As I remember, at some point going into the first loop, the front car separated from the rest of the train and continued through the ride. the rest of the train slid back down the loop and came to rest at the bottom of the loop. It was subsequently rear-ended by the next train. Two folks in rear seat of the train that was struck were messed up pretty good, can't remember for sure if it was a fatality or not, but I think it was.

Anyone remember this incident or have info?

No. I think this is not true, but do not have documentation.

MrScott

I don't think it would be possible without a complete failure of the block system. There aren't just sensors at the entrance/exit of each block but also throughout, ensuring that there is nothing in the block. If the train fell back off the loop (which I don't doubt may have happened) the next train would not be allowed to continue past the top of the lift.

I do know that Demon (don't remember which SF it was) which is also and arrow looper, had a problem where the wheel assembly locked up, or derailed, or something along those lines causing a train to get stuck at the top of the loop. No serious injuries (that I know) but I'm sure people had headaches for a few hours afterwards.

Yeah I believe that one :)..it ranks right up there with the decapitation of a girl on Demon Drop/Power Tower ;)

Cedar Point has a very very very good saftey record, Despite death related incidents, none have been caused by rides themselves if memory serves me right.Except for Magnum sinking while the train was going through the turnaround and it fell into the lake.

I hate how all of these stories become twisted when passing through people.

I didn't believe it but heard that when the cable snapped on Top Thrill Dragster it whiplashed and snapped a head off... ;)

I also heard that A young boy was thrown out of Wildcat and survived. Cedar Creek Mine Ride/Wildcat mix maybe?

On the other hand I know The Beast at Kings Island had two trains collide, yet everyone lived. Deaths just don't happen so easily. I know if I saw Top Thrill Dragster rollback and didn't know it happens pretty often I would freak out.

"Well, there goes Top Thrill Dragster, dismantled."

This is the only thing I can think of in terms of Corkscrew.

Grovite18 said:
"There have been people who have had other health problems in lines at CP, like the case in '94 mentioned above, but no deaths as the result of riding, or being on, a ride.

People have had heat strokes, heart attacks, etc etc.. but never hurt from a ride."

Very well put, Grovite18. Pre-existing health conditions have been the cause of the reported deaths. Cedar Fair LP, Inc. has never been responsible for the incidents.

Any of these other stories and rumors are false gossip and heresay. I move to end this topic. Does anyone second that? :)

HeyIsntThatRob? said:
Also I have been told that it was in the early 80's that a child was ejected from the Cedar Creek Mine Ride, but survived.

Wasn't there also some conspiracy about whether or not the kid was pushed, or was that one of the SF mine trains where an adult took a fall?

I understand the skepticism, but I am not a rumor-monger. I have speculated about things on these boards, but have always been clear that I am only rendering an opinion.

This is an event I clearly remember. It was not the 1999 chain lift incident. This was around 1980, give or take a couple years. I saw it myself on TV in Detroit, everyone was talking about it in the neighborhood for days, and my worrywart grandmother didn't want my parents to take me to CP that summer.

I don't recall the exact details of the accident, and I don't recall whether they were fatalities for sure, but my recollection is that 2 michigan folks were killed.

I suppose if anyone wanted to dig through old newspaper microfiche from that era, the documentation could be found. I don't have the time or desire to do so.

But rest assured, while I may have the details a bit wrong, the general gist of this is something I saw on TV firsthand, not heresay I am repeating, and not Bullpucky I am fabricating.

-Jason

This is the first I have ever heard of this incident and I've been around this community since 1998. I'm sure it would have been brought up by now.

Could you be confusing it with the Demon incident at SFGAm where the train threw an axle and was stuck upside down in a vertical loop for a few hours?

I'm not calling you crazy or an idiot or anything. I just think you're mistaken.

An accident like the one you describe would qualify as a "catastrophic failure" where mechanical, electronic, and human failures would have needed to occur. There's also the physical improbability that a lone car would have enough momentum to make it through the remainder of the course. Such a catastrophic failure that would have destroyed two trains while taking two lives would be remembered by a lot more folks around here than just you and would definately have been brought up many times before.

If something so catastrophic happened that long ago and has never been discussed at great length around here I really wonder if you were the victim of bad reporting, misunderstood the report, or just got your facts confused. You were a kid, right?

I just sent an email to the Detroit News asking for info on how to search archived copies of their newspaper from that long ago. I don't know where to go or how to do it.

If it can be done with only a couple hours of my time, I may be in Detroit in a few weeks and I'll see if I can come up with something.

Probably could go to the Detroit Public Library. They should have archives of all the newspapers. In fact, any one of the metro libraries I think keeps archives (or has access to them) of all the papers on micro-fiche.

My girlfriends mom is the Senior Vice President of Finance/Controller for the Detroit Free Press/News. I've got her looking for anything related to cedar point and deaths...

My favorate rumor is the girl that was scalped on power tower after her hair got cought in the wheels.

I still laff at that one.