Luminosity Testing?

tcgolfer said:
I'm well aware the level of stupidity it is to bring a beer into a haunted attraction. However it is their $8 beer that they spent hard earned money on. In my opinion it is not your place to waste the idiots money for them.

So your saying anyone walking through with food or drink should have immunity?

^^But if the beer spills because the guest was scared, is that his fault? It IS his job to scare guests, regardless of if they have a beer in hand or not.

^^ Exactly the point I'm trying to make.

^ Immunity from being scared? Maybe not. But immunity from someone trying to make them waste their food/drink on the ground just because they happened to bring it in? YES. Now if you want them to spill it everywhere and then pay them back for the money that you just lost them, by all means.

^So "Scaring to make them spill their beer" and "Scaring them" are two different things even though the tactic used is the exact same?

99er said:
^^But if the beer spills because the guest was scared, is that his fault? It IS his job to scare guests, regardless of if they have a beer in hand or not.

If he is scaring beer holders with the intent of getting them to spill their beer, that is douchebaggery of a very high level, and the resulting spilled beer is absolutely his fault.

If, however, he just scares someone who happens to have a beer, and beer is spilled, then yeah, that's the guest's fault.

But he clearly stated that he goes out with the intent to get beer carrying guests to spill their beer. That's being a douchebag. If the park didn't want patrons carrying beer, they'd prohibit it.

99er said:
^So "Scaring to make them spill their beer" and "Scaring them" are two different things even though the tactic used is the exact same?

He indicated his tactics aren't the same:

KevinL332 said:
Ha I love when people come through my zone durning halloweekends with a full $8 beer. I make it my goal to get them to spill it!

It all depends on the person. Some can be scared without having a screamster jump out at them with the intent to of having their beer go everywhere.

dj, but what if the actions taken by the screamster to elicit said scarings are indistinguishable in either case?

This is a rather odd discussion.

So, hey, is Luminosity starting previews tonight or Sunday?

djDaemon said:
If the park didn't want patrons carrying beer, they'd prohibit it.

Actually, the sign at the front of the zone says to finish it before you come in.

If you really want to look at it from a guest service standpoint. They must feel no one in the zone can scare them. When they walk into my zone with a full beer is telling me they don't think anything is going to make them jump, they come in with low expectations about the service I am to offer them. So I make it a point they get that service. The actually beer spillage it just a side effect of me providing good service to someone who didn’t expect it.

Ensign Smith said:
dj, but what if the actions taken by the screamster to elicit said scarings are indistinguishable in either case?

To me, the intent is the problem. True, the methods might be indistinguishable, but he's already plainly stated he enjoys making people spill their beer. That's just being a douchebag.

99er said:
Actually, the sign at the front of the zone says to finish it before you come in.

Well, then that makes guests that bring beer douchebags as well.

Regardless, I don't think it's the repsonsibility of a Screamster to enforce the rules. And even if it were, I'm fairly certain management would not approve of the method of "enforcement".

So would this be considered offsetting douchebaggery?

Nope. The guest douchebag is always right, for better or worse. :)

KevinL332 said:
Guese service for us is WAY different than guest service in any other area of the park. They pay to come to my zone to get scared and if I provide that im doing my job, its not my fault they spell beer all over themselves.

I agree. You're just doing your job to the fullest of your abilities.

If you scare someone and they happen to have a beer and spill it, that's one thing.

But to see someone who has a beer and think, "Oh I'm going to make them spill that." Is completely something different. For all intents and purposes the minute that guest hands over their $8 for that beer it becomes his property. So basically you're ruining his property.

KevinL332 said:
The actually beer spillage it just a side effect of me providing good service to someone who didn’t expect it.

I'm pretty sure someone you scare into beer spillage doesn't leave the park thinking "wow! that guy provided such good service that I spilled expensive beer all over myself! What a great employee!" Doubly so if they knew it was your intent to do so.

tcgolfer said:
If you scare someone and they happen to have a beer and spill it, that's one thing.

But to see someone who has a beer and think, "Oh I'm going to make them spill that." Is completely something different.

I disagree. He will try to scare the person whether there was, or was not, in fact, a beer in his hands. The reason behind it is inconsequential.

So... Luminosity

^ I disagree. In fact it seems like he's trying to provide 'better' guest service to this guy because he has a beer. At least that's the way it sounds to me. But making him spill his property all over himself or the ground is not a good guest experience at all.

Renegade said:
So... Luminosity

Apparently it is UNACCEPTABLE!

KevinL332 said:
Guese service for us is WAY different than guest service in any other area of the park. They pay to come to my zone to get scared and if I provide that im doing my job, its not my fault they spell beer all over themselves.

Being a dick is not a service. Some of you who do that job are a little too arrogant and dickish about it.