Is shoot the rapids basically the same ride as Snake River Falls?

I'm just curious I cannot tell the difference between shoot the rapids new ride for Cedar Point 2010 and Snake River Falls water ride. Except Shoot the Rapids has two drops and Snake River only has 1 big one. I mean can someone tell me the two differences between these water rides unless they are completely the same?

The rides are almost, but not quite, entirely unlike one another.

Snake River Falls...you go up a lift, you turn around, you go down the hill into a wall-of-water type splash and you get completely drenched all in one go.

Shoot the Rapids is a much longer, much more involved ride, and while you will probably get wet, you will not get nearly as wet as on Snake River Falls.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

The Main thing is probably the theming that makes the ride a much different experience. Another small difference is Snake River Falls is made by Arrow (inventor of almost all log flumes in the 20th century) and STR is made by Intamin.

Have you looked at pictures of both? How do they look the same?

No.

RideMan said:
The rides are almost, but not quite, entirely unlike one another.

Well, yeah. They both have boats that float on water and go down hills.

And that pretty much sums up the similarities.

Yes they are pretty much the same as far as ride experience goes except Snake River Falls gets straight to the punch, whereas Shoot The Rapids takes a long time going around slow curves with almost no themeing(unless you consider random signs attached to fences themeing).

SoakCity2006 said:
Shoot The Rapids takes a long time going around slow curves with almost no themeing(unless you consider random signs attached to fences themeing).

Signs attached to fences lol

Does anyone else think the STR Cam back ground is always overexposed?

Yes soakcity2006, the random signs ARE considered themeing. I can't see how people don't consider anything around STR themeing. The ride is themed just fine! Let the trees grown in and it'll be wicked awesome! Heck, I think it's pretty awesome as it is now, it's TONS of fun! And since I've been on both SRF and STR, I can say no they are not basically the same. That is unless you consider what John said. :)

C'mon Adam. Don't you know that themeing only includes millions of dollars of state-of-the-art animatronics and special effects. Anything less just doesn't count.

I don't like water rides much and to me I feel like there are many more effective ways to get that wet that take up much less space and cost a lot less (like the fountain on the main midway, which looks like the kids have more fun in that then on any of the rides). So I am judging the ride based on how wet you get and how much value you get as a ride. The hills are decent but the rest of the ride is painfully slow being that there is not much to look at. As a complete package Shoot the Rapids doesn't come close to replacing WWL. I am not saying that it is a dissapointment but I am saying that it doesn't add any real value to CP and sits on a pretty large footprint.

So, just how slow are the ground-level trough sections? I was hoping that, in lieu of a traditional elevated flume section, these sections would provide some rollicking excitement.

SoakCity2006 said:
I don't like water rides much

Ironic humor of the day.

It has the same outcome as the other two water rides....you get soaked.

That's what made wwl so much fun.

JuggaLotus said:C'mon Adam. Don't you know that themeing only includes millions of dollars of state-of-the-art animatronics and special effects. Anything less just doesn't count.

Well since you put it that way I guess the themeing for STR does suck! :P

Since shoot the rapids water ride was just put in...are they tearing down Snake River Falls for good??? I hope not..because I've never been to cedar point and it would be worth riding on a hot day you know. I thought STR had like special elements added to the ride to make it different than Snake River..like was'nt it supposed to have a fog tunnel with mist I heard..and a couple of waterfall features like the second drop at the end has rocks..are the rocks just their or they have water flowing over the rocks? And last after the first drop I saw in the animated video you pass under a waterfall canyon is this true or false? At least that's what I saw in the Animation video. But finally are they both completely the same?

I don't think Snake River Falls is going anywhere too soon. They repainted it this year and actually looks pretty nice. Shoot the Rapids is very different than Snake. Rapids has a fully misted tunnel, that you can't see anything in. There is a few water features spilling down over the rockwork on the island, water falls and smaller water sprays. These don't directly hit the boat but are more off to the side. The second drops rocks have waterfall rapids going down them and have spray that hits the bottom sides of the boats to make it look like you are going thru rapids. It's a great ride and they are not the same, other than they have water, boats and hills.

pointperson said:
I don't think Snake River Falls is going anywhere too soon. They repainted it this year and actually looks pretty nice. Shoot the Rapids is very different than Snake. Rapids has a fully misted tunnel, that you can't see anything in. There is a few water features spilling down over the rockwork on the island, water falls and smaller water sprays. These don't directly hit the boat but are more off to the side. The second drops rocks have waterfall rapids going down them and have spray that hits the bottom sides of the boats to make it look like you are going thru rapids. It's a great ride and they are not the same, other than they have water, boats and hills.

so it's just the misted tunnel in the beginning of the ride that's the only special feature they have..what about the waterfall canyon that you go under after the first drop? Was this just put in as a fake most likely in the animated video or is this real? When I saw the animated video I heard the waterfall canyon gets you a little bit soaked..if like I said if it's even in the ride..

crazy horse said:
That's what made wwl so much fun.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see where White Water Landing was the gold standard of water rides. People keep saying how awesome it was and how much they miss it, but it's biggest selling point is apparently that it was a water ride that you didn't get too wet on.

I rode it plenty of times and as far as I remember, it had all the drawbacks Shoot the Rapids supposedly has - slow parts, no themeing - except Shoot the Rapids also has the added deterrent of being a water ride that gets you wet. The nerve.

I never said it was the gold standard.

It was a fun ride, and you got wet but not soaked. That's why it was a good ride. There are many log flumes out there that are much better than wwl ever was, but it was a great ride for cedar point. It filled in a void. We did not go on it for the theming(allthough I really liked the cave), we went on it because it was a hot day and a splash of water is all you needed to cool down. And the view from the top flume was relaxing before the big drop.

The fact that they already have 2 other water rides that you get soaked on is the problem I have. Why do you have to get soaked? I would love str if you did not get soaked on it. Most amusement parks have had a log ride since the 70's, and to this day most of them still have a good sized line. Why?...Because they are fun. Again....not everyone wants to get soaked.

I don't want to have to worrie about bringing a change of clothes with me to the park, or having to get a locker.