Is Maxair Open?

KevinJ, do you know what the problem is? Do you know how to fix it? Exactly. Your ignorance is not needed.

What I do know is that as a consumer of the park, it is nothing less than ridiculous that a newer ride has been down for almost 9 months. "What the problem is" is arbitrary. The real problem is that Cedar Point now has a multi-million dollar, poorly engineered (with regard to Jeff's point about the design) decoration that looks like a ride sitting in the front of the park.

To get enough torque to do that, they are using SIX electric motors, all synchronized with each other so that they all add to the force required to push the ride. That's a fairly complicated trick involving a fairly elaborate communication system between the motor controllers, and precise control over the motor coils.

The complexity of which, pound for pound, likens it to TTD, which obviously works on a much larger scale.

Just because it's a simple concept, it doesn't mean its a simple fix.

I never said it was.

You can't say that you've never been fixing something and had a time where you just say "Crap, I need this now too..." It happens.

Maybe my vacuum cleaner, but not something that I invested millions of dollars in. That's called a financial "blunder" (see Kinzel's remarks regardring TTD). A bomb. A lemon.

Delerium at KI has the same down-time issues. Ignorance? Hardly.

"we can't buy this thing in third or fourth quarter, we'll have to do it first quarter" type of thing. I don't know this for sure, but I think we're dealing with some pretty expensive parts here.

That logic makes no sense, whatsoever. The rides are the heart and soul of CP. What is more expensive to CP, buying the part from a bankrupt company, or having a multicolored seagull poop collector right in front of the park? You decide.

But I'm ignorant, so what do I know?

cedarpointdude021170 said:

How do you know a couple of weeks?

i dont "know" it will be a couple of weeks. im just saying thats what my guess is and thats when i expect it to be open.

^^ - you pressurize a media into a large vessel, air for pneumatic, liquid for hydraulic. You then release the media from said pressurized vessel to operate a machine. You could just as easily use air on TTD as you could liquid on PT or Skyhawk. The power would not be the same, but there is nothing that says liquid can't drive a piston or that air can't drive a motor.

It's totally speculation, but it's been 8 months since the ride has operated. Do you really think they'd be waiting for parts to arrive if they ordered them the day the ride went down or even a day or a week or a month after? I don't.

My sister was at CP today with her school and she said that she saw maXair moving. So that is at least a good sign that it will open this season... maybe.

Matt--

A lot depends on *which* part has failed.

You might have hit on the most important issue in your earlier post. Huss, just like every other manufacturer in the amusement business, is bankrupt. That means that if it is a part custom built for the Giant Frisbee, they probably don't have any laying around; they have to have the parts fabricated on demand, and depending on the nature of the part, that can be a complex undertaking. Even worse, if the part in question is an assembly, it may be built using other components or fabrication services from other bankrupt companies.

Consider also the possibility of multiple failures, or even complicated failures that inspire 'shotgunning' in service techs.

In short, yes, I think it is very possible that they are waiting for parts to arrive nine months after the ride went down, particularly if it took a while to figure out what went wrong.

(obviously, there is a lot of speculation going on here...)

--Dave Althoff, jr.

In short, yes, I think it is very possible that they are waiting for parts to arrive nine months after the ride went down, particularly if it took a while to figure out what went wrong.

Which is both ridiculous and unacceptable. But like you said, the company is bankrupt. Hard to imagine why.

^^ I saw it run a test cycle today as well. There were two maintenance workers up on the platform watching it and a third in the control room. I only saw it run once in the 30 minutes or so I was in the area.

^That's good news!

^Yeah thanks for the news.

Kevinj said:

In short, yes, I think it is very possible that they are waiting for parts to arrive nine months after the ride went down, particularly if it took a while to figure out what went wrong.

Which is both ridiculous and unacceptable. But like you said, the company is bankrupt. Hard to imagine why.

If that is ridiculous and unacceptable to you, then don't go. Plain and simple.

Wow, I didn't realize this topic would bring up as many flame

throwers as it has. I just wanted to know if it would be open?

My son just got past 52 inches and WT, TTD, Mav, PT and Max are on

his must hit list for 08'.

Thanks again everyone see you there the 18th - 20th.

#42 Mariano Rivera Jersey :).

If that is ridiculous and unacceptable to you, then don't go. Plain and simple.

If I find it ridiculous that a ride can be broken for 9 months I shouldn't go to Cedar Point? Thanks for your insight.

It is good to hear it is finally moving, at least. Let's hope they have found a way to make it a tad bit more reliable with the latest fix.

I just saw MaXair testing everyone on the webcam!

Yes maxair is running on the Cedar Point Cam,WOOHOO!

I Caught this image from the WebCam, maXair is in the upper right corner, you can just see it swinging toward the right (most of it is off screen):

maXair Running

It was testing most of the day yesterday.

At about 9:30 Friday nught I saw them testing Maxair. It looked like it was running fine. However, I see that it is still closed today.

Man, how much longer do they have to test for??

EDIT: MaXair is open with people on it today! Someone over at thepointol said their friend is at the park today and said it is running with people on it!

Just because you see it moving doesn't mean that everything is working as it should.