Idea on L-TH-B theory

I know everyone is getting tired of hearing all the stuff about the L-TH-B but here is just my opinion.... I was at the park on Sunday and by looking at all the supports I think that there will be more to this ride than L-TH-B. I also tryed to just make a little estimate about how high it would go yet with all the yellow supports at the site and in my opinion adds up to about another 100-150 ft. Therefore i think that the height on this bad boy will be about 350 ft.

Why would CP only build a new coaster 350 ft if MF is 310 ft. They want to break height the and speed record, any less than 400 ft would be a waste.
*** This post was edited by broadhurst4 10/14/2002 6:30:50 PM ***

broadhurst4 said:
Why would CP only build a new coaster 350 ft if MF is 310 ft. They want to break height the and speed record, any less than 400 ft would be a waste.

There are many 285 foot roller coasters. Why not add another 15 feet?

*** This post was edited by DJ 10/14/2002 6:41:13 PM ***

Actually, there aren't any at 285'. The tallest coaster under 300' is Fujiyami which is just under 260'. Anyway, I think it has been made the height record would be back at Cedar Point next year high enough to end the dispute that S:TE holds it.
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If you meet me and forget me, you've lost nothing. If you meet Jesus and forget Him, you've lost everything.

400' is a VERY big jump from 300'. CP would do well for themselves just to get to 350'. This seems like the next reasonable benchmark

THE record. No asterisks. No "tallest full circuit" coaster. Just plain out tallest baby!

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Michael McCormack CP '02: 49
Magnum XL 200: 452 (577)
Millennium Force: 12
Wicked Twister: 33

Yes, but for how long?

Coasterbob, to respond to you saying that 300 to 400 is a big jump for CP, and they won't do it. Isn't 205 to 310 a big jump too? Thats 105 ft., they did it once, why not do it again? Because of this, I predict the coaster will be 415-420 ft tall, give or take a littlt bit.

-Stephen

I have an idea about the L-TH-B theory...it's gonna happen.

So if Cedar Point is spending all this money on such a short ride, wouldn't the park want to make it worth the effort and cost?

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James Draeger
-Captain Sarcasm

Stephen - It took 11 years for CP to go from 200' to 300'! Even if we say that to get to 400' will take 1/2 that amount of time, 2003 is only 3 years after the opening of MF. That's why I am thinking roughly 350'. It will still be plenty exciting!

I asked this in another spot but I haven't seen an answer: Is there a real L-TH-B coaster out there somewhere? What Park is it in and/or what is it called?

CoasterBob, I've never heard of another L-TH-B coaster before. Why do you ask? I'm assuming that you know that Superman the Escape is even simpler in design than this supposed L-TH-B theory. I currently do not see why this coaster couldn't be L-TH-B in design. Is this what you're getting at?

400 feet sounds pretty good, but let's keep stacking up those yellow supports. yeah, give the riders oxygen masks and let's have the ride soar into the exosphere. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Please, please, make my brain bleed and my eyes pop outta my noggin.

OK, just kidding.ÿ

Coasterbob, just because it took CP 11 years to go from 200 to 300 doesnt mean anything. If you look at it, typically CP doesnt build a coaster 2 years in a row, and they obviously are not following the normal, the technology is there, the money is there, the GP will pretty much all ride it, with few exceptions, so why not build it? Even if it is only 3 years after building MF, doesnt really mean anything, this will attract more people to the park, and pack the hotels even more then they already are, farther in advance. The more rides the add, especially coaster, if they have long lines, then a person will have to stay atleast 2 days in order to do everything at the park, which is in my opinion is obviously what they are trying to do. Plus take into account, how long was it before the record for height was broken after Magnum? A few years I think, and for MF it was but a few months, they want the title back, and they want to get it with authority, and be able to keep it for awhile. That is why I think well over 400'.

-Stephen

At this point, the ride is almost definatly going to break 400 feet. Why?

The track is almost at 200 feet, and isn't even vertical yet. If the ride was in the 300 foot range, there would be to little vertical track for the coaster to operate with. If you compare the incline on the new coaster to that of other big rides. you'll realize that the bigger the pullout, the taller the coaster. The pullout here is to big for anything under 400 feet.

Thats just my 2 cents though :)

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http://rct.ogresnet.com

Does anyone know how big Xcelerator's pullout is. Maybe it would give us some idea of how big this thing could be.

the current pull out on this new coaster is about twice the size of it....its bigger than the MF pullout.

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Guess who's back....back again ;)

Good Grief! CALM DOWN!

Do you guys need a towel or what? Enjoy the fun of the anticipation and move on to the next amusment.

Just think whats coming next year...or the one after that...:)

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"If we go any faster, she'll blow apart for sure!"

Dude, it sez on the site " look at the new thrill ride for 2003" on the webcam, now how would that lie?

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Anden?

CoasterBob said:
Stephen - It took 11 years for CP to go from 200' to 300'! Even if we say that to get to 400' will take 1/2 that amount of time, 2003 is only 3 years after the opening of MF. That's why I am thinking roughly 350'.

And Cedar Point doesn't build two coasters in two consecutive years.

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Tommy Penner - Variable X
Cedar Point FanBoy since 2001. || Cruiser Boy since 2002.
"Pessimistic people are the happiest people on the planet. They're either right or pleasantly surprised."

Technology is exponential. It took thousands of years to get to 100 feet, 10's of years to get to 300, and now even less time to go higher.

Think about what the issues are: 1)Higher speed needs bigger wheels. This is doable. 2)Taller hills need taller/bigger/wider support structures. I think we have seen that Cedar Point has consistently been able to build whatever type of structure is necessary. 3)High Speeds need Big Elements or brakes to keep the G's under control.

The pattern that I am seeing is that space is the main limitation on overall height of a ride, and I believe Cedar Point has a lot more room than many people think.

One last thought, about 50 years ago famous architect Frank Llyod Wright designed a skyscraper that would be a mile high. The base would have to take up 4 city blocks. The design is structurally sound. The only thing holding it back is cost, and now, terrorists.

Now we really don't need a mile-high building but the technology is there. The only limitations are space(4 city blocks) and money. Two things that I think Cedar Point has plenty of.
*** This post was edited by sigma one 10/17/2002 2:10:13 PM ***