Heartline roll removed entirely?

I haven't seen it yet in the thread, but ways to reduce your lateral G's on the heartline roll....

Like said before with excellent physics/math skills... The only way to reduce the force is through speed or time.

1) Have the train moving at a slower velocity...no brakes here, just have the train move through the element at a higher elevation, then the train would be able to move through the rest of the course without a problem.

2) Lengthen the time through the inversion...Extend the heartline roll so it twists slower.

These maybe difficult without serious modifications to the other parts of the ride. Also remember that the ride is slowed by friction, which essentially remains constant at any speed. The more linear feet of track you add, the slower the train will be moving. The higher the element is placed or the length of the heartline roll, if the same length of track would be used, it would have virtually no effect on the speed.

Wouldn't it be harder to extend the Heartline Roll completely though? The reason I ask that is because of how the layout is designed. You have so much math involved with doing each individual element peice plus the rest of the layout. What if they change it and it doesn't fit with the rest of the layout? That's my question.

If they're only replacing three sections of the track, they can't "extend" the roll. It's not like the rest of the track can just be moved randomly. These new pieces of track will have to fit perfectly between what is already installed. They have the whole layout in the computer and each piece is designed to fit together perfectly.

I thought by "extend" people meant make the radius of the heartline larger, like making it more of a barrel roll. That seems like something they could do. Maybe. I dont know.

As long as its fixed by Maye, 2008, when I get there again.

If the heartline roll has 0 G's.. then increasing the radius of it would only put more force on the track. At least that's what I would think.

^^ that is what i thought was going to happend... it seems like it would work to be, but my freshmen physics class from a few years ago didnt really cover this.

How much room is there i? i heard each piece of track was 40 ft long. *** Edited 5/12/2007 5:54:03 PM UTC by cpfreak08***

hey if you can edit a coaster on RC tycoon, you can do it in real life! Just Kidding.

I say its gotta be both. G's and stress on the trains.

The "roll" is 1/16th of the size of 3 1/2 5 foot tall human beings and one dog about the size of a mastiff. I predict they will take out 5 feet and put in a 130 degree jump.......................................................... That is me pretending to be technical and wishing I was a science/math wiz to be able to give a "smart" response here.

^ I'm not trying to be rude, but did you know you can edit your posts? That way you don't have to post three times in a row. Just go back to your original post, click edit, and you're good to go. Again, not trying to be mean - just giving you a tip if you didn't know already.

understood, but I had a different idea for each one.

I think you can have different ideas in the same post.

You can always press enter and begin on a new chapter.

Not trying to be rude either.

I didnt want to start a new topic about this and I couldnt find any mention of it anywhere, but the ever reliable Screamscape says that someone reported seeing the replacement track already on site. Of course I wont believe it until someone from here gets some pics or reports seeing it as well. Though IF it is true, that sure was one fast delivery.....

TTD 120mph said:
...the ever reliable Screamscape says that some idiot reported seeing the replacement track already on site.

I fixed it for you.

Technically, Screamscape doesn't say the person actually SAW the track. It just says he heard it was on-site with no pictures to back it up.

Other than construction equipment clearly all staged and ready out in the Soak City lot, there is no evidence of track or parts anywhere.

As for the heartline roll. It looks a lot more natural than you'd think. The train doesn't whip through it like I originally thought.

Gomez said:
As for the heartline roll. It looks a lot more natural than you'd think. The train doesn't whip through it like I originally thought.

I concur--I watched several trains go through it today and it didn't look any worse than the rolls on Raptor.

..Al