Good and bad news on the train themeing.

Cedar point 4-Life ^ ^ ^,
That's just waht I was thinking. When is anyone going to say, " i'm not riding TTD because they took the tires off of the back of the trains". People ride the rides for the thrill, not for the "look" of the ride. C'mon, dont make such a big deal about nothing. The tires aren't going to change the ride at all. All that CP needs is a tire falling off and a law suit. If that happens I dont think i'd see everybody wishing for the tires back. If CP and everyone here think that nothing on the back is going to make it look too shabby then CP will think off some safer and maybe even better looking prop for the back.

For the "rumor #2"- It isn't a bad thing to have on your wish list(on mine as well) and creative thinking on your part. As pointed out before, CP never intended to ever do this even for a last resort because there is no way the station could do this handle an extra row.
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Monty before first ride on TTD- " I’ve ridden dozens of coasters across the country. Then why did Top Thrill Dragster scare the dickens out of me?"

Hmmm, TTD is now a decrepit wasteland....interesting, the place looked pretty nice last time I went.....

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"What time does the 10 pm laser show start?"

I have no idea what to believe but when i hear it from a worker then I believe them before i believe anyone else. It could be true who knows, what excatly made the cable snap last week? Like someone else said it doesn't matter i just got home from riding it three 6 times in the last three days and it doesn't make any difference it just looked cool. Hey well at least i got to see it before they took it apart!!
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Hey ive probably met you at cedar point, im there enough!!

Why what did you hear?

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If you're scared of heights, you won't be after Cedar Point

jdoty said:
I keep seeing people saying "the heavier the train the more likely it is to go over the top". Well, I hate to break it to y'all but that's wrong. Mass has no effect on how high something can go.

While that is true, the length of the train and distribution of weight does play a role in determining whether or not the train will make it over the top. It's the reason that a ride like Alpengeist and its giant loops has a zero car while Raptor does not.

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"Pray that your country undergoes recovery!" - KMFDM

Ejector205 said:
Its not like the ride launches at 120 every time either. We have all seen it as low as 117, and at that speed with an empty train

I am not trying to be one of those nit-picking morons, but I noticed that when the train launches, the speed fluctuates on the speedometer. It does not just post one number, when it locks on a number, it is after the train disconnects from the launch dog. The train actually slows down a bit before it starts the climb of the hill. If you watch the speedometer during the launch, it will indeed go above 120mph for a split second. Just an observation.

JoshBrown said:
Why what did you hear?
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If you're scared of heights, you won't be after Cedar Point

I heared from the worker that the wheels and such were taken off for a weight issue. It could be very true, im not positive but i believe all that stuff weighed alot more then 2 average riders.

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Hey ive probably met you at cedar point, im there enough!! And thats me in the picture on the left

This is about the empty train not making it over the hill. Could it possibly be that the loaded train gives more tension in the cable and therefore it goes faster? Kind of like fishing with a light lure. Its harder to cast fast and far, but with a heavier lure, the cast will go farther and faster.
*** This post was edited by nacho 6/4/2003 1:54:45 PM ***

Maybe one of CP's best who works on the ride can confirm this: We were told by a ride op that a maintenance person is stationed in the hydraulic building at all times when TTD is operating to be able to correct problems as soon as they crop up or try to head them off. Is it possible that he (or she) can also adjust the power output on the motor when they switch between testing/ warmup mode and operating mode? I brought this up a while back but don't recall if anyone confirmed or denied it. Can anyone say yea or nay?

I have heard this as well. Can't say yes, can't say no. I'd lean toward yes. As to a mechanic "fixing" the power, the only roll back I saw was when they were running trains, and it was empty in between two full trains. The trains also vary in speed when they have been running for a while so I have to stick with my tension hypothesis.
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"Have you seen my cheese?"

I was told that no one is ever allowed in the hydraulic building while the ride is running. It is just too dangerous if something were to busrt or break in there.
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-Chris Woodard
"If you're standing in an uncomfortable position, that means you are in the right position because you are riding Mantis!" - Mantis ride op doing spiels on closing day.

I was thinking the same thing Ralph!

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Ed Markey is my anti-drug.
Rollercoasters have proven to cause brain damage in stupid politicians.

trips to CP:6 Dragster:2 MFer:6 Magnum: 13 Running with the bulls for a 15 minutes dragster wait, Must be June!

There may be a booth or seperate room in there where the operator would sit.

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Jeff said:
While that is true, the length of the train and distribution of weight does play a role in determining whether or not the train will make it over the top. It's the reason that a ride like Alpengeist and its giant loops has a zero car while Raptor does not.

Very true, my post was directed at the "it has more inertia so it will go over better" argument.

I always thought it would be awesome to be in the front of a dragster train when there were a bunch of heavy people in the back. With the center of mass that far back, on a near-miss rollback you'd be way over the crest looking down before you get yanked backward again!

I never thought to pay attention to the zero car before. I'll start looking out for those more now!

--James
*** This post was edited by jdoty 6/4/2003 8:29:38 PM ***

I think Alpengeist is the only B&M inverter that has one. Makes sense to me, because the inversions are huge (and really quite boring).

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Webmaster/GTTP - Sillynonsense.com
"Pray that your country undergoes recovery!" - KMFDM

Ok, for all of you who think this is a weight issue, let me just ask one question. Why on Earth would they just happen to take the theming off "to fix the weight problem" the day after a wheel fell off? Weight has nothing to do with it, flying wheels has everything to do with it.

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-Chris Woodard
"If you're standing in an uncomfortable position, that means you are in the right position because you are riding Mantis!" - Mantis ride op doing spiels on closing day.

Well said, the trains were clearing the hill easier with the themeing when empty then they are now empty!

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Ed Markey is my anti-drug.
Rollercoasters have proven to cause brain damage in stupid politicians. DAR-HOOT

trips to CP:6 Dragster:2 MFer:6 Magnum: 13 Running with the bulls for a 15 minutes dragster wait, Must be June!

Im not new here although I never post I merely enjoy reading through your opinion's. As Ralph stated, (just in different word's) it's all about accountability, for instance if the tire falls off again and hits someone they are responsible. They are responsible because it happened in the past, and this is an argument any lawyer would use in a law-suit. Any lawyer would have to argue that the park did not take approprite measures to correct the problem the first time and if they would have, the visitor struck by the flying object would not have endured the suffering, and therefore it could have been avoided.

Sorry for the spelling, it is late.

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*** This post was edited by Phil Bernard 6/5/2003 2:24:28 AM ***

Has anyone noticed that the radar clock on the launch mechanism building is gone.

yep, there is an entire thread about it http://www.guidetothepoint.com/cpplace.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=12078

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