electronic que line times

*chuckles histarically*,...the last post proved what? and yea im going to send a msg to my self log on to a different name and send an answer back yea ok can we say ...IDIOT,.... this is the first time that i have talked to captain ed,.... noble what are you talking about me and ed? if so we are just having a convo about the lot and cp's rides.... feed us hmmmmm....*thinks hard about it* ....right....~_^
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i would rather be on a ride than on my desk in school *cries* sledding is the only thing that is close

Can I just say that it is spelled queue....not que!!!!!

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Turnpikes/Calypso/Demon Drop 2001
Blue Streak 2002

"Why do you have to be a purse Nazi?"

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captain ed said:
Jeff... your kidding me right.... Walt is a sell out to the Public Relations Department. I know Walt. Just because you type it and put it on your UN-OFFICAL web site does not mean it should be written in the history books.

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If Walt's a sell-out then that must make me a vice president. Walt didn't even know any of the PR folks until last year. I however have for at least five years, have been to one wedding, every media event in those five years, and the park is a sponsor of CoasterBuzz.com (the other site I run).

You sound like a bitter little man, get over it. If the park is "ruined" as you put it, obviously there were 3.25 million people who wasted their money last year. Just because someone pissed in your Cheerios doesn't spoil the park for the rest of us.

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Jeff (Pointer for 27 years)
Webmaster/GTTP - Sillynonsense.com
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I don't get it. This whole conspiracy you've concocted doesn't make much sense. Why would CP have to falsify a ride's attendence records like Schwabinchen? They don't need to justify removing any of their attractions. They can just do it when they please. So why would they do it?

Oh, I know! You're full of crap.

You don't know me. I interviewed you once for an article.

My relationship with the PR Department may only be a year old, but I've been around the block many, many times. I worked there for 6 years and I've practically lived there each summer since 1973. My dad has been visiting since before WWII and my grandfather worked at the Cedar Point Lighthouse long before that.

You won't find many who have the knowledge, appreciation, and love of Cedar Point that I do. I've seen both sides of the fence. I've seen the good and the bad and I've seen how the park has evolved. But I don't see anything that's been ruined.

I'm not sure if you're bitter, disgruntled, or perhaps a little bit of both. You obviously have had some bad experience with one or more people at Cedar Point. With the attitude displayed on this forum, it's not hard to imagine why.

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captain ed said:
Just because you type it and put it on your UN-OFFICAL web site does not mean it should be written in the history books.

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Are you saying that Nancy Jane lied to me? Or are you saying that I made up or changed the answer? I asked her the question regarding departure and that's the answer she gave me.

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captain ed said: As far as visiting the park.... last year I went once

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That's too bad. I didn't keep track of visits last year, but they were numerous. There were many highlights to the season, although the best one is easily my son's first trip to the park. I got to see my son, then only 29 days old, ride his first three rides. I'm glad I'm not bitter, or I would have never been able to enjoy that.

I'm still not sure what makes me a sell-out. Maybe there are lots of reasons. I don't really care. I'll sell-out for Cedar Point any day. As far as I'm concerned, it's one of the greatest places in the world that has provided an immeasurable amount of enjoyment not only in the past, but in the present, and for many years to come.

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http://www.virtualmidway.com

*** This post was edited by Gemini 1/12/2003 9:33:02 AM ***

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Gemini said:

it's one of the greatest places in the world that has provided an immeasurable amount of enjoyment not only in the past, but in the present, and for many years to come.

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That sum's it up right there!!

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Screamsters 2001
Millennium Force/Screamsters 2002
There are 24 hours in a day, and 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?
*** This post was edited by 99er 1/12/2003 9:42:05 AM ***

Ditto.

MrScott
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Captain Ed....Jungle Larry's DID NOT RENEW their contract in the late eighties BY THEIR OWN CHOICE...His son David and his wife Safari Jane, decided to concentrate all efforts on their park in Naples Florida...There is NO CONSPIRACY regrading this. There was no "attendance clause" written into the agreement...Ride TOTALS a only a SMALL part of the equation when determining what to remove/replace.

Jeff,

All I'm going to say to you is.... I forgot more about Cedar Point than you know.... and just go back to playing Dungeons and Dragons

Capt. Ed

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You must really like hanging out and the Blue Streak and Giant Wheel? Hint..

Jeff...

The park's attendence has been going down steadily for yhe past 5 years. The park has not seen 3.25 million since 1990.

Anyone who actually lives in Sandusky can tell you that as they have watched traffic die off.

Don't be foolish enough to believe PR's attendence figures either. You think that Kinzel wants to keep spending 20 - 25 million every year.... no he does it cause if he don't he believes you won't come back.

Why do you think ticket prices go up every year? It's cause attendence keeps going down and we got to keep those stock dividends up so we raise prices. And it's not to pay for new coasters either.

And why do you think they keep buying all these defunked parks? It's because then they boast that theri overall parks attendence is up. And the raise prices in the park so their in park per capita totals go up.

See if you were a stock hold like I am you would get a yaerly report like I do so you can learn things.....

Capt. Ed

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I'm your puppet....

Well, Knotts attendence is quite a bit higher than Cedar Point (by 350K), and they have three waterparks branded under that name (all up in attendence this year), and a smaller park in a mall (knott's camp snoopy), but they're open year round (but like the press releases say, they get most of their attendence in the summer) so its spread out. Knotts was a giant investment for Cedar Fair, costing over a quarter of a billion dollars (not as much as DCA itself, which is like .6 billion, not over 1 billion), and then cedar fair bought and built 3 waterparks, went ahead with the ghostrider project (25 million), bought the buena park hotel and remodeled it INSIDE OUT to a good hotel, and then built rides continuously for 5 years (ghostrider, supreme scream, vertigo, perilous plunge, xcelerator). theres a big possibility of cedar fair buying another waterpark in fresno for 03. Don't call KBF defunked, it could one day rival CP for the chains flagship park, if they can get past moving the backstage areas across the street and building a parking garage so they can expand. if it weren't for knotts, snoopy would never be at the other parks.

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captain ed said:

Cedar Point better now than in the past?.....
Let's ask your dad or grandfather that question?????

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I've been going to Cedar Point since the early 60's and I completely fail to see why you feel the park is on the wrong track. Yes, the CP of my childhood was a magical place. The CP of present is an even better place. Sure, it has lost some of its small time charm. And there are more rules now due to the litigious climate in the U.S.. But, the park has grown up into one of the premier amusement attractions in the world. It is every bit as fun as it always was, and the rides far eclipse what I had as a child at CP. CP still has the special quality that could only be CP. I've done a lot of traveling in the U.S., Europe and the Caribbean, and after all my travels, CP is just about my favorite place on earth.

I would also suggest that you keep private conversations private. Walt is one of the CP regulars that I know, and he has a deep respect for the park and the people who work there. I feel your comments are in poor taste, and most likely, just a bunch of crap.
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Florida may have Disneyworld and Key West,
but Ohio has Cedar Point and Put-In-Bay.
It's great to live in Ohio!

*** This post was edited by Pete 1/13/2003 2:52:43 AM ***

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Pete said:
I would also suggest that you keep private conversations private. Walt is one of the CP regulars that I know, and he has a deep respect for the park and the people who work there. I feel your comments are in poor taste, and most likely, just a bunch of crap.

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Not only were his comments in very poor taste and certainly a bunch of crap, they were a complete lie and they have been deleted. He obviously remembers a very different conversation than I do. In his post he said he "thought" I said ... very poor memory indeed.

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*** This post was edited by Gemini 1/13/2003 5:43:54 AM ***

Are you trying to make a testicular challenge Eddie? Because you will most certainly lose that battle. Everyone who has responded to you here is successful, professional, and above all, knows how to play the game and get ahead in life. The only thing you seem capable of doing is being angry and bitter, burning bridges along the way. What a sad life you must lead.

You have so little ammunition for your argument that you resort to juvenile insults (though I don't know what playing Dungeons & Dragons has to do with anything, or if I did why that would be a bad thing). What's next, yo mamma jokes?

CP's attendance was 3.25 million last year. Not only do I believe it (especially with strong Halloweekends when the weather was good), it's what they declared as a corporation. They don't lie about things like that. The SEC gets real unhappy with public companies that lie about such things. Besides, those increasing dividends I get every three months are very much real money I reinvest for more units. I get the annual report, thanks. Not only do I read it, but I understand it.

Ticket prices have been less than inflation most years in the past decade. So much for your theory.

Amusement parks spend money on capital improvement. That's what they do, so what? You have to spend money to make money. Guess what? It works... see previous comments about dividends.

As for buying "defunked" parks... (Are those parks where they removed the smell? Spell it with me... "D-E-F-U-N-C-T.") What the hell are you talking about? At what point did they buy a defunct park? Michigan's Adventure was certainly doing OK when they bought it, as were the water parks in California. Prior to that we had Knott's Berry Farm. The only bigger deal than that park in SoCal is Disney, so that was hardly a bad move.

And while on the topic, they don't buy them to make their numbers look good, they buy them to (gasp!) make more money! Do you read the reports Mr. Unit Holder? Every year they've purchased a new property they always give two figures for attendance and revenue, one with the new acquisition and one without.

Yo mamma...

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP - Sillynonsense.com
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I stated in another thread, Jeff, that this guy isn't worth the time it takes you to write a response.

It is true that "Captain Ed" was a part time employee at Cedar Point at one time but there is a lot about his relationship with the Point that he is not disclosing.

I'll leave it at that.

Jeff the public relations dept at Cedar Point does not like anyone who disagrees with them. Don't shun people just because they don't agree with you.

Some times in July I can walk right on Iron Dragon, Blue Streak, Gemini, Corkscrew and sometimes Mantis..... should they take these rides out as well?

Whatever dude. I know those people and consider them my friends.

You're still a bitter man with an axe to grind and no argument.

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP - Sillynonsense.com
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Guys, way too much time is being spent bickering with a washed up EX-Paddlewheel captain who can't move on with his life. He is not as welcome at Cedar Point as he may try to make you think. I was shown his picture and given strict instructions to call security if I saw him in the park. No wonder he only went in the park once last year. As for his whole stats conspiracy theory, it's a joke. If you call the Cedar Point information line or go to town hall or guest services, they have an information manual (known by employees as the big pink book of knowledge) with the same numbers that appear in the ride operators manuals. (as well as anything else you would ever need to know, like every location that sells elephant ears, or how many arcade or soda machines there are in the park) That information is allowed to be given to guests. The only person trying to pull the wool over someone's eyes is Captain Ed trying to fool everyone in this community. Please, stop the nonsense.
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ONE freeway stamp a day... ONE

Back on topic....

Now that it is a little closer to opening, has anyone noticed any sign that electroinc queue line times have been implemented?

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I think that those of you expecting something huge and cool will be disappointed. There isn't a single logical reason to pour a footer and enclose it in an ugly wall for six months.

Jeff, in May of 2002, on the then vacant site of Dogems.