Drone on the beach

djDaemon's avatar

Again, "permitted" isn't the same as "good idea".

To devarious' point, people flying these things stupidly - and yes, flying a drone at one of the most popular regional amusement parks on Earth is a stupid idea - is a good way to ruin the hobby for everyone.


Brandon

Pete's avatar

Flying a drone over Lake Erie is permitted but I would stretch the interpretation of CP's policy far enough that standing on the beach flying a drone, even if the drone is over Lake Erie, is prohibited. So, don't do it. If you want aerial shots, charter a small plane and have the pilot fly you around the Point so you can take pictures.


I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

thedevariouseffect's avatar

Use this map for coverage..It's not the tell tale full and perfect map, there's alot more that you need to take into account, but this will give you a clue as to where you can fly & can't fly according to airspace rules. This doesn't account for the other things (such as private property, etc.)

Just ask permission, and if you get a "no" leave it at that. Sucks, trust me I'd love to take a Phantom over Cedar Point for some shots. Hell having it over Dragster looking straight down either the up/down sections would be one absolutely killer shot I'd love to have in my library & for park B Roll.

However, rules are that, and I like keeping my drone legal and the costs down for all of us.


Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011

No need to repeat your useless post. The beach is not "obviously " Cedar point. To those of you that actually tried to help. Thank you! To those that assume I would be flying over rides or people why don't you go back and read the original post. NOBODY is getting arrested, that is why I am asking (don't give up your day job).

djDaemon's avatar

Have you contacted the park?


Brandon

DSShives's avatar

Cedar Point encompasses the entire peninsula and its all private property. Operating a drone anywhere on Cedar Point property is prohibited. So when the policy states that drones are prohibited at all Cedar Fair Parks, that includes all of the Cedar Point property, just not the actual amusement park.


Steve Shives
First Cedar Point Visit - 1972
Dockholder-Cedar Point Marina

Pete's avatar

Eddieopus said:
No need to repeat your useless post. The beach is not "obviously " Cedar point.

I would make a bet with you that if you stand on the beach flying a drone you WILL be visited by the police.


I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

thedevariouseffect's avatar

Eddieopus said:

No need to repeat your useless post.

Says the one who is obviously asking roller coaster enthusiasts about drone regulation which encompasses FAA regulation. But go ahead and ignore the guy who's actually registered under 14 CFR Part 107. Just saying

Pete said:

If you stand on the beach flying a drone you WILL be visited by the police.

And I'll be sitting in my Breakers room like:


Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011

noggin's avatar

Eddieopus said:

The beach is not "obviously " Cedar point.

How is the beach not "obviously" Cedar Point? It's right there in front of a hotel that's obviously part of Cedar Point.


I'm a Marxist, of the Groucho sort.

Cedar Point Drone Policy
All drones (Unmanned Aerial Systems) are prohibited at (in) all Cedar Fair parks, including Cedar Point, and any unauthorized drone(s) observed over Cedar Point will be reported to the FAA and local law enforcement, regardless of its point of origin or operation. Drones may pose a potential safety risk and may violate Federal Aviation Administration guidelines.

The highlighted line there "including Cedar Point" seems to imply the resort properties, but does not, in my opinion, explicitly state that is the policy. The key being that the previous statement says at (in) all Cedar Fair parks. The beach is not in the park, but is "at" Cedar Point.

I would still ask the park to clarify, but I do not think this statement is obvious.

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PyroKinesis09's avatar

Right, forget the thread in October, the way this guy posts on here, I'm imagining an article in the papers the next day about some dude resisting arrest because the beach "isn't part of Cedar Point", and they took his drone away.

noggin's avatar

CP Maverick said:

The highlighted line there "including Cedar Point" seems to imply the resort properties, but does not, in my opinion, explicitly state that is the policy. The key being that the previous statement says at (in) all Cedar Fair parks. The beach is not in the park, but is "at" Cedar Point.

I'll disagree. It would be like me telling you that you can't fly your drone over my house, and you saying, well, you didn't explicitly tell me I couldn't fly my drone over your back yard.

But I'll agree: it's best to ask the park.


I'm a Marxist, of the Groucho sort.

Spit's avatar

I think noggin is the most level headed reasonable person here. Wish I looked like Channing....


Games - 1989 - Beanbag Toss/Break-a-plate

Since we are going back and forth on the real answer I emailed the park and asked if the beach and lake were included in the drone ban. I'll post here when I hear back.

^ action, I like it. This thread has prompted me to YouTube "Cedar Point Drone" and to my surprise more videos than I imagined are available. That is, footage when the park is open. Yikes. I pitty the fool who flys a drone into anything or anyone. Yes I'm aware the Dji Phantom's have "sense and avoid" ... Juss saying it's possible to fly without such safety features.

thedevariouseffect's avatar

^Not all do, that's something relatively new with the 4...Phantom 3's and before are pretty limited here, and also won't catch most **** till your props hit it anyways..


Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011

Thank You for contacting Cedar Point. Our entire peninsula has a very strict No Fly Over policy filed with the FAA. This includes all areas of our resort complex including hotels, beaches and parking lots as well as the park itself. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us at 419-627-2309.

Steven
Guest Services
Cedar Point

Got this email a few hours ago, seems they are pretty strict with it, even going as far as to file with the FAA to have a no fly zone. I can understand 100% why they would have this policy and as much as it sucks because you could get some awesome shots of CP from the beach with said drone I understand CP decision about this completely.

XS NightClub's avatar

It doesn't suck at all. Its for the safety of CP guests and employees, along with security of their property.

If a drone hit someone, someones vehicle, other personal property or an employee, CF would be held legally and financially responsible as it was on their property and have much deeper pockets than the drone operator. And from an employer standpoint it would be even worse, Worker Compensation and Liability, fines could be extremely costly.

And FYI, CF also does not allow Rollerblades, Skateboards, Bikes etc.. on their properties for much the same reasons.

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XS NightClub said:

It doesn't suck at all. Its for the safety of CP guests and employees, along with security of their property.

If a drone hit someone, someones vehicle, other personal property or an employee, CF would be held legally and financially responsible as it was on their property and have much deeper pockets than the drone operator. And from an employer standpoint it would be even worse, Worker Compensation and Liability, fines could be extremely costly.

And FYI, CF also does not allow Rollerblades, Skateboards, Bikes etc.. on their properties for much the same reasons.

It does suck to someone who is very well trained and responsible with their drone, however as I said above it 100% makes sense. I say the same thing about fireworks, I'm very smart with them and take proper safety steps every time I lit them off, however I understand why they are illegal. Of course there is a difference between a 200 dollar ticket and a federal offense so.....

I would say that any lost opportunity to take pictures "sucks". I understand why it disallowed, but I still think it "sucks" anyways. There are great views of the park from those illegal vantage points.

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