Dinosaurs alive platinum pass holder news!

Scottyf said:
...I'm actually against them because I'm of the mindset that you should pay the one price and get everything they offer ride/theming/experience-wise for free.

Even if that means admission costs $100? And season passes cost $400?

...it puts things on a slippery slope.

Maybe, but we'll only end up back where the park used to be, charging separately for each attraction. Wasn't the end of the world then, can't imagine it would be now.

Before you know it, they will start treating (and charging for) Halloweekends as an entire separate season.

They already are, to an extent, right? I thought they've raised admission price when HW came around. Or was it just parking? Or both?

I wouldn't be surprised to see another season pass tier that includes HW. I think it's long overdue, actually, considering the crowds that seem to grow every year.

djDaemon said:
That's a very poor comparison, considering the midway itself isn't an attraction.

Given some people's reactions on this site to some of the recent paver work the new midway could be considered an attraction.

djDaemon said:

Before you know it, they will start treating (and charging for) Halloweekends as an entire separate season.

They already are, to an extent, right? I thought they've raised admission price when HW came around. Or was it just parking? Or both?

I wouldn't be surprised to see another season pass tier that includes HW. I think it's long overdue, actually, considering the crowds that seem to grow every year.

I think most people that were there on Columbus Day weekend last year were not season pass holders. Maybe only 1-5% were pass holders on that day. Most season pass holders know when not to go.

Scottyf said:
You're assuming people were happy to pay the upcharge, and I argue that most weren't.

Your argument is undermined by the fact that people paid the upcharge. If they weren't "happy" to pay it, they wouldn't have paid it.

The idea that parents are powerless to say no to their children may respect your idea of parenting, but most parents think otherwise.

SSL488 said:
You bring up that Soak City is an extra charge at Cedar Point. Does anyone actually know why or have an opinion as to why Cedar Point's Soak City is not included with park admission but Soak City at Kings Island is included, along with all of the other Cedar Fair water parks?

Probably because of the resorts. It's an extra gate that can draw people in who may not want to go to the amusement park multiple days but want some water based recreation during their vacation.

noggin said:
Your argument is undermined by the fact that people paid the upcharge. If they weren't "happy" to pay it, they wouldn't have paid it.

If you're trying to convince me that you've never paid for something and rolled your eyes, or grumbled about it, and instead, have always had a big, fat "happy" grin on your face every single time you've ever forked over cash, you failed.

thedevariouseffect said:
and if his parents fork out a ticket, sweet, maybe later in the future I'll get something I want with that extra cash.

I think they pay the light bill with that.

:-)

Scottyf said:
If you're trying to convince me that you've never paid for something and rolled your eyes, or grumbled about it, and instead, have always had a big, fat "happy" grin on your face every single time you've ever forked over cash, you failed.

I'm not trying to convince you of that at all.

I don't pay for things I don't think are worth the cost.

If people are willing to pay the upcharge, then by definition they feel the charge is justified. If they choose to pay that upcharge when they don't think the product is worth the cost, well... too bad so sad....

Scottyf said:
...have always had a big, fat "happy" grin on your face every single time you've ever forked over cash, you failed.

If you're irrationally focusing on the figure of speech I used, rather than the obvious intent of the comment, you failed.

;)

If by "intent" you mean your normal MO of argue everything and not agree with anything, then yeah, I caught your drift. Once again, you win the internets. Claim your prize.

Relax. Your MO is no better than you claim mine to be.

When I said that "folks were happy to...", it was a figure of speech. As in, I was not literally claiming that every single paying customer was glad to have spent that money. I'm sure some regretted the purchase, just as I'm sure some visitors to CP regretted dropping money on general admission on a busy or rainy day or whatever.

The point, which everyone else seemed to understand, was that lots of people have been paying to see DA. As such, it was a smart business move to make it an upcharge attraction.

You need to chill, as you're getting all worked up again.

The original point was that Dinos are now free, and people seemed to be excited about that. You're the one that twisted the discussion into a debate over how the price was justified, yet you can't explain why some things are charged for and some aren't. Actually, you conveniently ignored those so that you can focus on the argument instead of making it a healthy discussion, which is again, your MO.

Btw, I already answered it for you, it's because they can.

Scottyf said:
...it's because they can.

This is why I didn't belabor the point. You already answered your own question.

There's belaboring and then there's discussion. Pete's the only one so far that brought up an interesting (and plausible) point on the subject, and he did it without being sarcastic, or trying to shine as the smartest in the room or playing the role of Captain Obvious.

The answer of "because they can" goes much deeper, and I'm sure there are actual business reasons which might be interesting to analyze. If you want to put aside the arguing, and actually have a healthy banter about why some things are charged and why other things aren't, I'm all for it.

Scottyf said:
If you want to put aside the arguing, and actually have a healthy banter about why some things are charged and why other things aren't, I'm all for it.

I actually already made that attempt, right here, before you started to go all ad hominem on me. :)

For the record you may have been trying to use it an expression, but you could have easily not used the word "happy" to make your point. You did use it though, which is why I simply made the comment that many people were probably not, in fact, happy. Whatever.

That said, it was then noggin who charged in like a diarrhetic bull, even putting "happy" in quotes, which is why I latched onto it as I did.

Wow that's a lot of words about a subject that I don't think anyone gives a crap about anymore. Let's just move forward.

Hey everyone. This is my first posting - I love this site!

We have Dinosaurs Alive at Dorney and last year they implemented a program where you could pay $12 for the entire season (of course after I already went once).

Something which i don't believe someone has brought up - I believe the reason for the up-charge is that the park originally had staffed the area with staff dressed up in Jurrasic Parkesque costumes with a basic training on dinosaurs who would answer questions for the guests. I noticed at Dorney Park that they really started to cut back on the staff after the first, and going into the second year when the offered the $12 unlimited visit option.

(I don't know if Cedar Point offered this, but the staff honored my pass when I visited).

But all of the other perks on the Platinum passes are pretty cool and making it more valuable!

I believe Cedar Point is offering a $7 unlimited visit to season pass holders. It will also be free for platinum pass holders.

The reason for the up-charge was simply to make more money. Which is, of course, a great idea. I believe that from what we have heard, it has been a big success financially.

I'm ecstatic that it made, and hopefully will to continue to make, a nice chunk of change for the park. That's always a good thing.

That said, I won't miss 'em when they're gone.

Kevinj said:
The reason for the up-charge was simply to make more money. Which is, of course, a great idea. I believe that from what we have heard, it has been a big success financially.

Actually, the reason for the up-charge was to cover the cost of renting the dinosaurs. CP doesn't own them and they need to pay the company that rents them out.