CP Problems...

The 300 ft tall rides are not visible from KY :)

My gf was driving (wink wink) and we saw the parking lot, just didn't know we were supposed to park there...just followed the road.

How hard is it to build a shelf to store things in MFs station? $20 out of a $25,000,000 budget for the ride isn't much. Instead they pay hundreds of dollars to put in lockers (and then charge you to store stuff in them). It just leaves a bad taste in your mouth that they force you to use the lockers. Nothing was being blown away at the station for WT, and I'd rather see someone lose a stuffed animal that they're not allowed to get in line with than their shoes! Again, my gf rode just fine with her purse under her coat, so there was no need for her to put it in the station or a locker.

If the resorts have no address, then they could have at least printed directions or a map on the Getaway guide, or on the website, or in the confirmation letter they send you, or at least tell you where it is when you call! Especially when the directions on the website don't even take you past the hotel!

Again, it was a good visit, but there is definately some room for improvement.

A shelf idea for MF would be a good idea, but they also have 2 stations for MF.

There is a lot of things that can be improved, but they will be improved as all things do.
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- Chris -
http://www.thepointOL.com/~simplycp
WT 2002 - 5
MF 2002 - 18
2002 Witches' Wheel/ Monster Crew

I doubt Cedar Point is trying to capitalize on the lockers. The no purse or other objects rule is a good one. Have you ever had a purse/glasses/camera hit you in the face at 93 MPH?

The workers can't catch everything. There are just too many people walking through the entrance to the queue and some people hide their things also.

It's best to follow the rules. I know if I get hit by a purse and suffer an injury, Im gonna open it up to find out who I am sueing.

You can't have a storage area at MF due to the stations.

Plus CP probably doesnt want to deal with people losing thier valuables. With the amount of people who pass through the station, mainly those who get on before you but get off after you leave for your ride, they can take anything. It is best to avoid that potential fiasco.

It's easy to miss Breakers Express if you come in from Route 6 rather than from 250 because 6 enters the causeway just north of BE. If you'd come in from 250, you would not have missed it at all. But I understand it's difficult when driving in for the first time. And by your OWN admission, you "ended up taking a different route than what was listed on the website".

As for missing that huge parking lot, go fig. If you had a parking pass from the hotel on your dashboard, the parking booth operators would have motioned you through, assuming you were staying at one of the resorts on point. In fact, there are signs above the parking booth for the outer road that specifically say "RESORTS/Soak City". This is generally the smallest line and once you are in it, it's tough to get back out. Personally, I like parking in the back by Soak City.

As for the purse...fanny packs are allowed, purses are not unless they are small enough to be secured in a pocket or covered by a coat. There IS a sign at the entrance that explains these items may not be taken into line. MF and WT are much more intense than Raptor and have higher speeds. Although they let me wear my glasses on Raptor, I HAVE to take them off for MF and WT. It would be nice to be able to see when I ride, but oh well.

As for a "shelf", CP doesn't want to be responsible for someone snatching her purse. Personally, I wouldn't put a purse on a shelf. Just common sense there. I've never taken a purse into an amusement park. I use a fanny pack. After more than 32 years of amusement parks, you learn the tricks.

As for the $3 pop and water? You aren't the only one who finds that outrageous. I think most people on these forums agree that is a major ripoff, and most are boycotting those machines.

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I'd rather die living than live like I'm dead

What? US 6 has not ever as long as I can remember ever crossed Cedar Point Dr. north of the Breakers Express site.

I personally don't see how, as a tourist, you can possibly miss the hotel.

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

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How hard is it to build a shelf to store things in MFs station? $20 out of a $25,000,000 budget for the ride isn't much. Instead they pay hundreds of dollars to put in lockers (and then charge you to store stuff in them). It just leaves a bad taste in your mouth that they force you to use the lockers. Nothing was being blown away at the station for WT, and I'd rather see someone lose a stuffed animal that they're not allowed to get in line with than their shoes! Again, my gf rode just fine with her purse under her coat, so there was no need for her to put it in the station or a locker.

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If you're so confident that no one will take your stuff while it's in the MF station (or any station at any park), why not just leave it on a midway bench or in an unlocked locker? Last time I checked, they open without paying, you just can't lock them! The reason for not having shelves at every ride is twofold. First, the park does not want to be responsible for your stuff being stolen or damaged while you ride. Many people think that the ops are going to sit there and watch their stuff, but the truth is, they can't keep 108 people's (3 trains full) things straight. Also, this is done for capacity. People walking over to set stuff into a box takes time, and it's time that just doesn't exist on some rides (Magnum, Corkscrew, Gemini in particular) if the crew is going to be able to hit interval and not have downtime due to set ups. CP tries to be accomidating where it is workable (Mantis, Raptor, Power Tower), but in some cases, boxes or shelves just aren't practical. Personally, if it doesn't fit in my cargo shorts, it's not coming into the park with me. I've seen plenty of women walking around CP without a purse too.

It sounds like you might have taken the Cedar Point Chausee (long narrow road with houses/lake on both sides) instead of the causeway. I don't think any of the park's official directions tell you to do this. If you follow the main route (250 to Butler St. to 6 to the causeway) there are many signs to instruct you. If you get off of 2 at Rye Beach Rd, it is possible to be confused because you'll be in the boonies and you'll think you did somehting wrong, when in reality you just go along 6 until you come to the causeway. Not exactly sure how you cna miss Breakers Express if you were on the causeway (unless somehow you got onto the causeway from First St.).

-Matt
2001 Magnum Crew

It could be that you followed Rt 6, but then turned off onto 1st Street. That would have put you north of the hotel, as 1st Street enters the Causeway right by the employee housing.

As for shelves on MF, I don't think it's possible. You exit at a different station than you enter. How would you get to your stuff?

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It's very hard to drink all day...
Unless you start first thing in the morning.

Okay, you have problems at Cedar Point?

Why not look around and realize that the problems were not caused by the park, but by your own lack of intelligence or your own indignance?

Whose fault is it that you lost $.75 in the first locker? Your airhead girlfriend who closed the locker and pulled out the key without her purse in it. Not Cedar Point's.

Whose fault is it that you didn't read the HUGE sign at Millennium Force's entrance that says that no backpacks, purses, cameras, etc etc are allowed past the entrance? Not Cedar Point's.

Whose fault is it that you went the wrong way into the park instead of planning your trip better and checking map sites first? You guessed it, not Cedar Point's.

If you go the right way into the park, there is NO WAY you can miss Breakers' Express, as already noted in this thread.

So you think Cedar Point should put shelves in Millennium Force's station? Maybe you could design some way said shelves could be feasibly fit into the station design, with the unload and load stations being fairly far apart and only accessible by an employee walkway on which guests are NEVER allowed to walk, under ANY circumstances. However, I doubt you could muster up the three brain cells to figure out a way to do this to the existing station, as it might require being intelligent enough to know the mechanisms of a locker at Cedar Point.

I don't think your problems with the park are the park's problems, I think they're just that, YOUR problems.

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Natalie
Mine Ride '99
Thunder Canyon '00
Millennium Force '01

Sorry, Jeff, I should have been more clear. I take the route that Pete described. I'm a Michigandar, and if you do what it says on CP's site...."follow the signs", anyone who gets off on ANY of the routes, will follow signs and could come in one of several ways. We once came in toward the back which doesn't use the main causeway (and I don't remember the name of that road either). Unless one comes in from Cleveland Road, they will miss BE.

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I'd rather die living than live like I'm dead

I too thought that they've not had a sign directing you down the Chausee in years.

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

There is a sign at the Chausee entrance, but it's usually closed. I only see the sign open on busy days when traffic backs up at the main entrance.

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Virtual Midway
http://www.virtualmidway.com

*** This post was edited by Gemini 5/24/2002 12:50:13 PM ***

I recall a sign at the Chausee entrance two years ago...but we were specifically LOOKING for it. It was more an adventure decision. I've always taken route 2 to 6 and followed the signs through Sandusky, at least since 1970. My parents used to take the turnpike to 250. I've never come in from Route 4.
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I'd rather die living than live like I'm dead

ItzCryptic said,

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Of course we didn't have three quarters, so we saw a sign that says to go to the MF cart for change. We walk all the way to the MF cart and the woman woudn't give us change and said there was a change machine next to the lockers. (So what was the sign for then?!?)

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They have those same signs at WT lockers, and the same thing happened to me. The girl at the WT stand said that the sign was for if the change machine wouldn't work. They could have at least added, "...if the machine doesn't work," after it says please see WT cart for change.

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2002- Raptor Hot Shots
Force Laps: 427
Wicked Twists: 48
*** This post was edited by Wicked Twisted Greg 5/24/2002 3:11:56 PM ***

Breakers Express didn't strike me as being easily missed. It appears in a clearing and there is a scrolling marquee telling you its BE.

IMO, there doesn't seem to be much room for shelves in MF's stations. Having two stations doesn't help the fact either. I have only left one thing behind on a shelf for a coaster before and even then I was nervous it would get stolen. Thank god for cargo pants.

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Back from lurking
New account, same name
KW 2002

I had the same thing and was puzzeled as to why it did not say "If change machine is out of order"That kinda ticked me off.

[Upon careful consideration, I have decided to remove my original post]

Isn't SR6 at the light next to the causeway? I know that BE was two lights away and there were signs for SR6 at the next light so that if we had entered on that road as suggested on CP's website, we would have missed the Hotel anyway.

And yes, it must have been the Chausee that we drove on to get the Point.
*** This post was edited by ItzCryptic 5/25/2002 2:17:58 AM ***

Now this is just becoming angry bickering... I'm really not trying to sound rude but when someone quotes every single line someone else says, then comments on each sentence, that's pretty sad. Yeah you ran into problems getting to Cedar Point, parking, and the lockers, but I'm 100% positive you aren't the first. I agree with what Natalie was saying and I know she didn't say it just to be rude. She was speaking the truth.

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Brent Haley
Gemini Crew '02