CP Pay Raise

Now that Amd. 2 has passed, CP will be forced to raise it's pay for employees from 6.25(base) to 6.85(new min. wage). Any guesses on what pay will be for ATL's and TL's?

I wonder if there will be a catch with the whole bonus issue involved? Right now, with the bonus, the pay rate is $7.25, but that rate isn't guaranteed. I'm interested to see how this is going to go. I'd suspect they have to raise their wages, but I can imagine there might be loopholes with the bonus involved.

Maybe they'll just keep all the same policies but raise the base pay to $6.85 and sustain that wage increase all the way up the seasonal staff totem pole

now theres going to be no smoking at cp to issue 5 passed and issue 4 failed so no smoking in restaurants and bars and at cp u cant smoke either

Why wouldn't someone be able to smoke in non-confined open air area?

they said no public place and cp is an open area place but it is a public area the ban passed yesterday

The law pertains to enclosed public places.

"to generally prohibit the smoking and burning of tobacco in enclosed areas of public places and enclosed areas of places of employment. An enclosed area is defined as a space with a roof or other overhead covering and walls or other side coverings on all but one side. A public place is an enclosed area to which the public is invited or permitted."

I would guess it will pertain to enclosed restaurants (TGIFridays/Famous Daves, etc), but not the open areas of the midway. It does mean that anyone violating the posted no smoking signs in the queues will receive a warning on the first offense, and a fine on any subsequent offenses.

*** Edited 11/8/2006 3:17:46 PM UTC by Mark Small***

It is also up to CP to enforce such fines, if they could be levied against and individual. Usually fines in this situation are levied against a business that allows smoking in enclosed places.

Either way its unlikely as they have enough trouble enforcing the no smoking policy they have in place now. And I would doubt the queues would qualify as enclosed spaces (although the CP rule against it still stands).

Maybe though, with the passing of Issue 5, CP will realize that many of its patrons do not appreciate smoking at all, and CP will go the route of many other amusement parks and become all non-smoking except for certain designated areas.

You're right John. The queues aren't enclosed places, but because they have posted signs stating the no smoking policy, it is enforceable by law. The law as I read it states that the individual can be fined for not obeying posted signs. The business can be fined for allowing smoking in enclosed public places.

It's definitely going to be interesting to see how this one plays out.

That would be awesome. I hate having to dodge the burning cigaretts of the inconciderate smokers on the midways. (No, I am not saying that all smokers are inconciderate, only some of them)

With this new law if Cedar Point does decide to go smoke free and post signs on the midways the same fines apply there too. Now if only they could actually enforce it.

Yeah, the law only applies to enclosed buildings, which are already smoke free at Cedar Point. I would like to think what Jeff Young mentioend though... that they'll see that people don't really appreciate it, and maybe put some more regulations into place.... or atleast enforce the current ones a little better.

Just like any regulations though, adding more doesn't help if you don't bother to enforce the existing ones.

I think that a key fact is being overlooked here, with regard to CP seeing the passing of this measure as an indication of public opinion. A very large portion of their customer base doesn't live (nor vote) in Ohio. CP knows where their bread is buttered, I'm sure.

And we can still smoke here in Michigan. :)
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Wait...
The no smoking law has something to do with a "CP Pay Raise"? *** Edited 11/8/2006 8:01:34 PM UTC by kirk06***

Of course it does. With the pay raise, now the CP employees will be able to afford more packs of cigarettes. Which will generate more tax dollars that can be used to pay for state inspectors to watch the queue lines to ensure that no guests are smoking.

Jobs are going to be cut from the pay raise. Not just CP but all over ohio, and prices will rise because workers will have more money in their pockets. It wasn't a smart move. We'll see cuts at CP for sure, they already keep staffing minimal.

Satire 101.

Well, since the guy at the top (i.e. boss) isn't going to want to take a pay cut, there are 2 ways for him maintain his pay with a minimum wage increase. A) increase prices, B) decrease payroll. Its just simple math.

Since this has strayed off topic already, I'll add this. The smoking ban that passed does apply to indoor areas, but it also applies to outdoor areas where the property owner has posted no smoking signs, so the queues do apply in this case. There's also a confusing (to me anyway) line in the law that says "anywhere where employees may be present" and it seems to apply to indoor and outdoor areas. They have 6 months to enact the ban, so I'm sure all this stuff will get straightened out before too long. I kind of suspected CP may be doing limited smoking areas next year anyway. Under the new law, I believe businesses will only be fined if they supply ash trays and things like that to "enable" smoking. Other than that, all punishments go against the individual(s) who are smoking.

As for the pay raise, I suspect CP will keep the same bonus system they have now, they'll just raise base pay to $6.85 (or maybe they'll feel really generous and bump it up a little higher than that). I don't think raising the state minimum wage is going to see all this doom and gloom that some people are predicting, but I'm not going to get into the politics of all that.