Could B&M have built this coaster?

By looking at the design and type of coaster maverick will be, it makes me wonder why they decided to go with intamin insted of B&M.

B&M could have done the same type of ride. And I think it would have been more reliable than an intamin.

What are your thoughts on this?
*** Edited 9/15/2006 2:43:09 PM UTC by crazy horse***

Here we go again.....

Interesting question.

B&M doesn't touch launches. Not even with a million foot pole. And I know "But The Incredible Hulk lauches" Yes but Universal designed and built that launch.

THAT'S why B&M didn't build this.

I thought Hulk was a joint venture? B&M designed the ride and Intamin handled the launch. At least that's what I remember hearing, and I could be wrong.

But you are right (according to me, and I give your post my blessing ;)), everything I've seen and heard is that B&M won't do launches. The reason - reliability. B&M opts to go for reliable over cutting edge. They've focused on one thing (great fun rides) and they've done them well.

Intamin chose to push the envelope, and any time you do that, problems will arise.

My thoughts are as follows:

Why do we need to discuss this AGAIN? Some people prefer Intamins, some prefer B&M - Some feel one is more reliable than the other, some feel that Intamins supposed unreliablity is worth the added experience.

I appreciate both in different ways... Intamins are smooth, usually fast rides that usually include some technological advancement, whereas B&Ms are not as smooth, but often offer a unique experience (i.e. - 4 accross, floorless, etc.).

I ride them both and will wait in a decent line for both. I bet an Intamin Mantis or a B&M Maverick would both be pretty fun.

I agree with you mr inkspot. They both are very good companies but in different ways.

Because I am curius, thats why.

The same thing could have been done to this ride. Have B&M build the ride, and have someone else do the launch part of the ride.

Plus, if B&M built the ride, we could of had 4 per row seating which would have doubled the amount of people the ride could handle.

Wrong.

Millennium Force's trains hold 36 people each. That's 9 cars with 2 rows of 2 seats in each car. 9x4=36

Raptor's trains hold 32 people each as well. There are 8 cars with 1 row of 4 seats in each car. 8x4=32.

Yea, but maverick is only 3 trains long. Thats 12 people per train with intamin, but 24 with B&M.

So B&M couldn't add another row?

Or in the case of maverick, which is 6 x 2 (12 people) going with B&M's 4 across COULD have made it 6 x 4 (24 people) which would be double the current occupancy.

Although, I think B&M's configuration only works on some coasters, and Maverick just isn't a coaster that the 4 across would seem to work on. It looks much better with just the 2 across.

^^Wrong again.

If you had a B&M train with only 3 cars, it would also be 12 riders.

Both companies accomodate 4 riders per car. On a B&M, all 4 riders are in a row. On an Intamin, it's 2 x 2.

edit: shakes fist at Jugga.

*** Edited 9/15/2006 3:29:32 PM UTC by e x i t english***

^ Just what I was going to say.

Edit: I wonder what the specs are on a B&M train. Is the Intamin train significantly longer than a B&M train? When looking at a B&M train from the side (i.e. in the station looking at the train before you board), is the B&M row longer than a typical Intamin row (2 riders) Think about how much space there is between you and the seats in front of you. This space could be the locking mechanism between the cars, though. I'm just not sure. *** Edited 9/15/2006 3:25:51 PM UTC by Jeff Young***

I stand corrected. I forgot that B&M's were independent cars for each row.

I think the cars are about the same size. Where the row in front of your seats would go, there is nothing so that you can move across.

Unless you go with the dive machine type trains ....

http://rcdb.com/ig2662.htm?picture=56

I thought that B&M trains had 2 rows connected? I guess I was wrong.

All this wrong is just wrong. B&M uses 3 car trains on it's dive coasters. Riders are arranged 10 across in a single row for a total of 30 riders per train.

SO, if B&M were to have done this ride it most likely wouldn't include a launch, nor would all of the riders in the train be able to hug the ground so closely during their ride. But there would be a better hourly capacity and based on past performance, it would be more reliable.

*** Edited 9/15/2006 3:38:09 PM UTC by Rihard 2000***

Those are just to keep capacity up. If you went with a standard 4 across train (with 32 passengers), the back half of the train would still be level when it paused at the top of the hill. So they had to do something to up capacity while keeping the thrill.

Probably not. If they could have, they would have.

We do not know if the coaster is reliable or not because its not fully built yet to test/ride.

I think you are all forgetting how low to the ground this ride is. There is no clearance for a 4 person wide train, let alone the 8-10 person wide Dive coaster trains!