Cedar Point's Next Coaster: Do You Think It Would More Likely Be An Intamin Or a B&M?

Is there any place they could move the Wildcat and the Good Time Theatre to as well, considering they also move Calypso and combine all the Cadillac/Turnpike Cars? That would open up a pretty enormous piece of land right by Raptor to put in a gigantic dive machine or a wing coaster.

Well considering its been in many places before, it could easily be moved. It's a very compact ride. I'm not sure where it would look good at, it's not a very good looking ride. A nice paint job would be nice.

From everything I've heard about Oiumet, he understands the value of front line employees. I really do expect that CP will invest in employee housing in the future.

Also, as far as maintenance, I hope some money is budgeted for things like replacement of light bulbs and other cosmetic things. CP, I feel, is top notch in maintenance items that affect operations or safety. They have the right tradeoff in where costs are cut. I hope that under Oiumet, things that are cosmetic can be budgeted for.

I know we can't 100% trust most of the posts on creamscape, but on 12/29/11 they posted something about a rumor of a B&M coming in 2013. Just thought it was interesting.

B&Ms are great but for it to be worth the 6 year wait it either has to be a Dive machine or an all new type. 4th dimension?

I thought 4th dimension was made by arrow..?

There made by Arrow and Intamin but we could get a prototype from B&M which would be B&Ms first 4th dimension.

That would be interesting to see. What location do you think the coaster would be at? By best guess would be the Blue Streak area where there has already been previous talk of them removing/relocating Calypso and the Turnpike Cars.

^^Just to be "politically correct", Arrow technically doesn't exist anymore and S&S now has the patent for the 4th dimension coaster. Both Intamin and B&M have similar designs to the 4D trains but the seats do not spin in their versions. Intamin has only made one "wing rider" while B&M has 4 (3 opening in 2012). However, B&M was said to have another "new" design in the works so we shall see if CP will be the one to get the first of it's kind.

I think the 4D Intamin coaster they were talking about are the zacspin coasters which do rotate. Furious Baco, or whatever it is called, is much like S&S 4D models or B&M wing riders, but the seats do not rotate.

Yea I suppose so.:) I like the free spin idea more because it seems the controlled spin just leaves for more mechanical headaches

I think it will be located by Blue Streak. That area is one of the only areas to not see improvements in the past 10 years. It would also bring more traffic towards Blue Streak.

I really do not like the idea of a zacspin type ride. They just dont look all that exciting, but that's just me.

I hear the zacspin at Magic Mountain (Green Lantern) packs quite a punch. Though I think the main problem with them is their low, low, low capacity.

Plus they look like chintzy carnival rides.

I truly doubt we would get a zacspin. There is no capacity to the ride at all. The only advantage is it's small footprint compared to most other coasters. Adam is right, it is actually somewhat good...I don't prefer them but they do get the job done. It's somewhat like Maxair where no two rides are perfectly alike.

If the coaster we are apparently getting that is going over in that area is indeed true, my only problems with a coaster over near cad cars/raptor area is how the two coasters would interact. If we were to get a coaster there I would have to say a B&M just for the simple fact that from looking at it, B&M supports are placed perfectly and without true interference or take up much room (see Iron Dragon/mantis area. Plus if it goes there, having two B&M's screaming beside eachother...that would be incredible :)...On the flip side however, Intamin using their double spine track however, very few supports are needed. That is however the double spine track is used in this build. So the support theory could be debunked here. Also the park somewhat has focused most coasters in area 2 and 3, only having a handful in the front. Seeing a new coaster dominate the front of the park's skyline would be quite impressive.

Lets just see what this year brings...I'm sure people will be on the hunt for new construction markings, stakes, and shipments arriving to the area starting day 1 or sooner on tours.

^ I'm one of those people who look for that stuff every single time I am at the park. Even after they announced Dinos Alive! I was still on the hunt. But to my disappointment, I didn't find anything too interesting :(

I would much prefer a B&M but there's one problem I have with a B&M coaster coming to the point. The problem is cloning. B&M clones their coasters all the time. Nearly all of them of the same kind are very similar. If CP was to get a B&M, they would really have to make it special in some way to set it apart from other B&Ms.

The reason all the Intamins have been amazing is because there's really no others alike. I've never seen or heard of a coaster like Maverick. Maybe Fahrenheit but that's it. There's only one other coaster like Dragster and it's not nearly as good and it's more of a mechanical nightmare than TDD. There coasters similar to WT but it's the only one with 2 spiraling spikes and it's the tallest. With Millenium, it took 10 years to make a coaster similar and I've heard it isn't as great.

What I'm saying is, all Intamins are different and stand out. With B&M, I personally feel if you've been on one invert, you've been on them all. Same with their stand up.

Lol Kingda Ka is the only mechanical nightmare? Dragster has more downtime than uptime, days where it accumulates 0 riders, and has many mechanical problems still to this day years after opening. Also...notice how much downtime a B&M at CP has versus any other Intamin...Lastly there's safety in my opinion...B&M's have alot better track record than Intamin.

Also saying they are all alike. Yes they have the same elements & whatnot sure. There are minute differences. But you have to remember it's made by a firm that is very slow to develop and very keen on what they do. Looking at a B&M over Intamin, B&M does what they know is right and works. Intamin may have alot of new ideas and advancements, but look at the costs of getting a new ride. Even though it's not related to, but look at Windseeker...Prototypes and new advancements have quite alot of problems compared to something that's tried and true. Hell it's taken this long for B&M to come out with a giga, and I believe it's ganna stomp down just about any other Intamin in the same class out there for quite awhile.

If a B&M were to go in the turnpike car rumored area, I think I dive would be the best choice... I think it would look great with the skyline.

I like the idea of a wing rider too, but how tall are those usually?