Cedar Point at Christmas

Yeah, but you have to actually go into Detroit for the casinos. Who the hell wants to do that?

Pete said:
Back in the day, Kinzel wanted a casino in Sandusky operated by Cedar Point. That would have probably helped the bottom line quite a bit.

I think a Cedar Point casino would be great. Gambling was just legalized in Ohio a couple years ago, which is why it didn't happen under Kinzel's leadership. I don't know if Ouimet would like the idea or not. It could bring in some revenue year-round for Cedar Fair.

Somebody must like going into Detroit for casinos, since there are three of them.

A traditional Christmas event is not reasonable for the environment of the park, however for the second year in a row on December 15th 2013 there is an event that will allow limited access to the park. The Santa Hustle Half Marathon begins and ends Castaway but follows a course through the park, on the boardwalk, and around perimeter road. Always an option for those despite enough to see the park.

The Lake Erie shores are no place to be in the winter months. For those that live there, more power to you. If the Christmas/Winter event was such a success, CP would have kept the event going. I'm not willing to drive two hours to the park to walk through a couple of shops and ride the carousel. There's many indoor shopping malls that offer the experience. I'm sure the park staff is busy enough planning for the next operating season.

The best alternative is what a few people stated already about joing a roller coaster club to get in off-season events. Even being a coaster enthusiast myself, I'll probably never attend one of those tours. Maybe if I lived closer to the CP, but not going to drive that far to a closed amusment park. But that's just me, but very greatful that many of you on here participate in the off-season tours and post the photos and videos online. :)

kylepark said:
The Lake Erie shores are no place to be in the winter months. For those that live there, more power to you. If the Christmas/Winter event was such a success, CP would have kept the event going. I'm not willing to drive two hours to the park to walk through a couple of shops and ride the carousel. There's many indoor shopping malls that offer the experience. I'm sure the park staff is busy enough planning for the next operating season.

The best alternative is what a few people stated already about joing a roller coaster club to get in off-season events. Even being a coaster enthusiast myself, I'll probably never attend one of those tours. Maybe if I lived closer to the CP, but not going to drive that far to a closed amusment park. But that's just me, but very greatful that many of you on here participate in the off-season tours and post the photos and videos online. :)

Living on the shore is great in the winter; there is snow, wind, everything closes, well I guess that's all the great things I can think of...Why do you think we want to go to a Closed Park, after all it's only 173 days until opening day 2014!

Scottyf said:
Yeah, but you have to actually go into Detroit for the casinos. Who the hell wants to do that?

People who are not ignorant.

People who don't want their car jacked on the way between the casinos and the highways out of the war zone that is Detroit.

I get that talking about dangerous Detroit is the funny, clever thing to do these days, but all it does is demonstrate that someone watches too much news, and has never spent any significant time in the city.

Detroit is enormous. Downtown, where the casinos are, is nothing at all like the distant northeast side, where most of the danger is. In fact, it's a half hour drive from Hart Plaza to the epicenter of the most dangerous neighborhoods. In almost any other city in the US, you'd be in a different city by that point.

So yeah, I get that it's easy for ignorant folks to poke fun at Detroit, but it's getting old. Find some new jokes.

You're old ;)

There new joke everyone, poke fun at djDaemon :D

raptorqueen said:
Join ACE or GOCC, sometimes CP has an off season tour for the Holiday party when the party is held in Sandusky.

If you join GOCC, they are having their Holiday Party at Kennywood this year. Kennywood has a holiday event now with lights and decorations and some rides open. Looks like a lot of fun. Reminds me of the Toledo Zoo lights but with more rides. We are planning on going.

Here is the Holliday Lights web page: http://www.kennywood.com/holidaylights

Making fun of traveling in Detroit is clever, funny and true. Detroit is a terrible city that I have lived near my entire life, visiting many times. Of course, each visit is a rubber-band visit, because you visit a place then get the hell out. It's a bankrupt pit of humanity that has 90% crap and 10% bright spots. The problem is, you travel two blocks away from any of those bright spots and you are in hell.

Defend it all you want, it doesn't make the facts less true.

Scottyf said:
Defend it all you want, it doesn't make the facts less true.

Facts? Oh, cool. I like facts.

Some facts:

Fact: The crime rate in Downtown Detroit is equivalent to that of Chicago.

Fact: The crime rate in Downtown Detroit is lower than the national average.

Fact: The crime rate in Downtown Detroit is lower than the state of Michigan average.

Fact: Nearly 88% of all crime in Downtown Detroit are property crimes.

I still have never been to Detroit...not due to violence/crime..Just that there isn't really anything there that interests me..I'm not a big city life person. The only city thing I enjoy tbh is having a bit of night life every once in awhile, like once every couple of months. But I'm not going to drive to Detroit to do that...

djDaemon said:

Scottyf said:
Defend it all you want, it doesn't make the facts less true.

Facts? Oh, cool. I like facts.

Some facts:

Fact: The crime rate in Downtown Detroit is equivalent to that of Chicago.

Fact: The crime rate in Downtown Detroit is lower than the national average.

Fact: The crime rate in Downtown Detroit is lower than the state of Michigan average.

Fact: Nearly 88% of all crime in Downtown Detroit are property crimes.

Let me do one of your favorite things to do, what's is your source for these "facts"?
Also It kind of proves the point that Detroit is not a good place when you have to provide facts for a select, undefined area. Downtown is a vague location which can be manipulated to give you the data you desire

If only, Dead Sexeh, there was some way you could independently verify djdaemon's facts to your own satisfaction.... some type of, I don't know, inter-net-work of computers or something?

Does it prove the point that dj was providing facts for a select, undefined area, or does it only mean that dj didn't drill down into detail to your satisfaction?

I could but, when things are stated as facts the person proclaiming the facts should be able to show that they are indeed facts.
Also I am just playing the silly game he does with everyone else (i.e. see topic "what ride would you remove?")

Dead Sexeh said:
I could but, when things are stated as facts the person proclaiming the facts should be able to show that they are indeed facts.
Also I am just playing the silly game he does with everyone else (i.e. see topic "what ride would you remove?")

^^ like button ^^

A) Sure. He'll come along and show that his facts are facts, and they you'll say his facts aren't really facts, and so on.

B) Since he's not around at the moment to respond, how is it you've concluded he's not citing facts?

C) Just saying, if I think somebody's making stuff up, I check it out myself rather than rely on the person whose reliability I question. And given the ease of finding information on the internet, I can do so just this quick: the crime rate in what is officially designated as downtown Detroit is the same as Chicago's. Took me just a few minutes and a few searches.

ok i will amuse you, i did a quick google search and here is what i came up with:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/10/22/detroit-again-t...rate-dips/

and

http://city-crime-statistics.findthedata.org/compare/1723-2870/Chic...vs-Detroit

not sure about the accuracy of the last one, but judging by what i am seeing deroit is still has a fairly higher crime rate.