Beer carts.

I think they should pull a Holiday World. Pay an extra $20 at the gate and get all the free beer you want! :)

-Tambo

tambo said:
I think they should pull a Holiday World. Pay an extra $20 at the gate and get all the free beer you want! :)

-Tambo

Wow, did that really happen there? lol

Who needs a "beer buzz" when you have the greatest collection of coasters in the world to ride at Cedar Point?

On a side note, does VillianLover have to be negative and complain about something in every thread? geez

Nope, not really negative.

However, if I don't believe in something, I have every right to say so.

Personally, I think it's a big waste of money. But, to each his own. You've got people out there that blow a good chunk of their money on drinking, and have nothing to show for it.

I've never thought of it as being a "mark of pride" to get falling over drunk as JuggaLotus has stated. Unfortunately, some people get this way and end up behind the wheel, sometimes killing innocent victims. Those that have killed the innocent, should get the death penalty themselves, instead of however many years behind bars.

For an amusement park to sell it so openly just portrays a bad image, that's all. I have no problem with people wanting a drink, just go eat at TGI Fridays or some of the other CP restaurants that serve it, not some beer cart where they are able to walk around with it so freely.

So, now we'll have people walking around holding a beer wherever they want, along with many people who like to have a cigarette with their beer, too. So we'll have more people smoking outside of the designated smoking areas so they can drink and smoke at the same time.

I just feel it kind of destroys the image of an amusement park being "good, clean, fun".

Hold on to your mouse...

VillianLover said:
Not saying that, just saying it's easier now because there are more locations to buy it.

There's no logical basis for your argument. Zero. First off, Cedar Point cards people in the most ridiculous of situations. Ask Pete. He's 40+ and gets carded all of the time. They sure as hell can't afford to lose their license when there's that much revenue at stake. To say nothing of the fact that the place is crawling with police. You'd be a really stupid kid to try and get away with it there.

Second, no kid is going to try and get "wasted" by having their friends buy them $7 beers. Get real. They'll load up on Boone's at two bucks a bottle and do it in the parking lot in their cars.

Only drunks find this attraction appealing.

Spoken like someone who has never had a drink. Either that or you're being judgmental, trying to assert some higher moral standard that, frankly, most of us could do without.

Cedar Point is a family destination. Kids should not have to be around drinking, smoking, and the like.

Families all over Europe drink wine with the kids, some as early as their pre-teen years. My girlfriend was among them here in the states, in a very Italian family. The way she'd tell it, earlier experience with alcohol actually led to very little fascination with binge drinking in college. It's up to parents to teach kids about responsible alcohol use, not the public at large, and certainly not Cedar Fair.

However, if I don't believe in something, I have every right to say so.

Well good, because we all have the right to tell you you're completely full of it. It all works out!

You've got people out there that blow a good chunk of their money on drinking, and have nothing to show for it... I've never thought of it as being a "mark of pride" to get falling over drunk as JuggaLotus has stated... For an amusement park to sell it so openly just portrays a bad image, that's all... So, now we'll have people walking around holding a beer wherever they want, along with many people who like to have a cigarette with their beer, too... I just feel it kind of destroys the image of an amusement park being "good, clean, fun".

Here's the problem with every last one of your statements. Aside from reeking stench of judgment, it assumes that people only drink to get f'd up. While I certainly enjoy tying one on from time to time, even at Cedar Point, the vast majority of people consume alcoholic beverages one or two at a time, and enjoy the taste. There's nothing beyond that. It's really that simple. There's nothing unclean or naughty about consuming alcohol.

Now if you don't mind, I'm going to have a glass of wine now. Don't even get me started about the fine art of wine production. I'll look for you next time at Cedar Point riding that high horse. Come on down off of it and have a beer some time.

Dvo said:
I've never been drunk at CP...

Probably a good idea not to be, seeing as how you can be removed from the park for it.

villian lover, would you have a different opinion if beer sales on the midway would save you beloved Dominator? From where I sit, selling beer (to people of legal age) in a high traffic, convenient area is a good business decision.

but it seems like for some around here, the only acceptable business decision is to build another coaster. Everything is just an example of the evil Cedar Fair sticking us again.

VillianLover said:

I've always thought the Bubbles Swim up bar at SC was ridiculous. I mean, seriously..a bar in the water? Only drunks find this attraction appealing.

Cedar Point is a family destination. Kids should not have to be around drinking, smoking, and the like.

Yes, seriously, a bar in the water! That's really the main reason I go to Soak City, it's a great way to spend the afternoon.

Just because a place is a destination with something for the entire family doesn't mean that it should be only all about kids.

Bubbles is a great place to unwind, and many adults find it a nice retreat to get away from kids for awhile. It fits fine in a family resort, it's not loud or rowdy, and they make good drinks.

I don't know why you think swim-up bars are strange. Put-In-Bay has a number of swim-up bars that are big hits. Those are a big contrast to Bublbles and are not at all family friendly. I think you should try the dark side and go to Splash! at PIB. The "lifeguard", in a bikini, will sell you a beer and put her tips in her bikini bottom like a stripper. With the things that go on there, you could easily film the next "Girls Gone Wild" at Splash!

Like I said, Bubbles fits in perfectly in a family resort, if you compare it to what it could be.

You all have some very interesting posts, but they haven't been very convincing to me.

I've worked at establishments that sell liquor, and believe me, CP isn't the only place that cards people who are 40+. I was taught it's just better to be consistent with checking ID's and to just card everyone. Sure, it made some mad, but hey, if you are planning on drinking, bring your ID. You should carry it all the time, anyway.

I am not doubting that CP is crawling with police. However, they can't be everywhere all the time. I have witnessed many things at Cedar Point that would warrant being ejected from the park, or at least a firm warning. To just name a few, people smoke pot there all the time (we can smell it), and the most recent was the 2 lesbians that were all over each other on Cedar Downs (wayyyy more than just a simple PDA), it sickened us! So you're argument about the po-po is only somewhat legit.

I was too young to remember, but my dad told me one of the reasons they removed the upside-down funhouse is because people were passing dope in there on occasion. Whether there is truth to that or not, I don't know. It's just not an accurate assumption to think that nothing "wrong" happens at CP. I am sure the CP police do their best, but you just can't catch everyone, every time. Selling beer on every corner would be no different.

Speaking of which, Jeff, I am afraid I am going to have to decline your invitation to come "down off my high horse" and have a beer. I think beer tastes nasty. Anyway, enjoy your "whine". :-)

So it is now illegal to show affection at Cedar Point? Or, were you just "sickened" because it was two lesbians? I saw a guy and girl "all over each other" also on Cedar downs (ironically) during my last visit. Should that have "sickened" me too?

I do believe in drinking (everywhere) is a nice bonus for cedar point. It is private property and what you do on it is your choice, but I think that everyone knows getting ignorant / drunk / annoying is not the goal of people.

Personally, I drink and do jager bombs and all while I am away from the park (staying at Breakers), drink until I get to the park entrance....

But I try not to flaunt my drunkenness, or sway / stagger / stumble. This is a totally kids friendly environment here.

The beer carts........while I do see people in line with beer / beer breath now. It is debatable......I see no problems with drunk people yet.......young pissy teenagers.

I am at hotel breakers, on night 3 of 4 of a 5 day vacation. Last day in the park tomorrow.

Off topic, but I have seen "disabled" guests brag verbally as leaving the line of how they have it so good waiting 10 minutes for a line (bringing friends / family up the exit with them to ride). This is a new thing for me. I knew people had VIP, but the pinkish / purple cards are for disabled guests. Some don't look so disabled, and I heard leaving the Millennium Force things like "I can't believe these dumb...es wait 2 hours while we wait 10 minutes" "Yeah dude it's so awesome, what do you want to ride next" Among other extremely rude comments relating to the abuse of the system / how guests are "lame" for waiting in lines.

This ticks me off.....I see legit disabled people...no problem. I see people speed walking off a ride rubbing it in peoples faces its another. *** Edited 8/28/2007 5:47:24 AM UTC by factory81***

^Regardless of what those people may be saying, they did indeed wait for their ride. They may have spent 10 minutes on the platform waiting to load, but they did not circumvent the line. Disabled people wait just as long as everyone else, and it makes me mad when people fail to comprehend that.

VillianLover said:

To just name a few, people smoke pot there all the time (we can smell it), and the most recent was the 2 lesbians that were all over each other on Cedar Downs (wayyyy more than just a simple PDA), it sickened us! So you're argument about the po-po is only somewhat legit.

You had better consider BYU as a college choice when you finally graduate in a few years.

"So it is now illegal to show affection at Cedar Point? Or, were you just "sickened" because it was two lesbians"

They were removing each other's shirts and running their tongues on each other's chest areas and lower while they were on the horse together, halltd. Their friend on the next horse was cheering them on and trying to take pics.

It wouldn't have mattered if it was 2 chicks, 2 dudes, or a chick and a dude. Anyone should know that's not appropriate public behavior.

So, just curious...are some of you really that dumb where you have to question and undermine everything I say? Or are you just running out of things to post?

CP sell beer because it makes them money, and the last time I was there it didn't seem to be a drunken festival to Bacchus throughout the park. Do some people get drunk? Yes. Have I seen people arrested at CP for being drunk? Yes. Do some minors probably drink? You bet. If they really want to they will find a way, just like outside the park.

"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

-Tambo

Lesbians hate freedom, and allowing them to make out is like letting the terrorists win.

Seriously though, it's the 15-year-old hetero teens that I could do without.

And for the record, I've never seen drunk teenagers at Cedar Point. Not in the 30 years I've been going there.

VillianLover said:
So, just curious...are some of you really that dumb where you have to question and undermine everything I say? Or are you just running out of things to post?

Says the person who did not respond directly to anyone's points, but rather tried to distract us with tales of lesbians.

OK people calm down, Villainlover made some good points and many made mean spirited remarks. Some of the replies made some good points as well. Agree to disagree and move on.

I agree with a lot of all of the points, but think that increased alcohol consumption will eventually degrade the family atmosphere of the park because a small percentage of drinkers will spoil it for the rest of the responsible ones. That's my himble opinion and nothing more.

PLEASE BE NICE TO EACH OTHER :)

Correction, that's my "humble" opinion (not himble). I can't type worth a sh#!. :)

Like it was said before, at $7 a beer, it's not going to turn into a nickle beer night, like at the old Cleveland Stadium years ago.

If for some unbelievable reason, such an occurance would happen, I'm pretty sure CP would halt beer sales for good. Until then, lets give CP the benefit of the doubt, or just stay away if you so choose.

-Tambo

^^ - how can a small percentage ruin the family atmosphere?

Lets take even a Friday Halloweekends night, 15,000 people (just a guess). So, say 5% get drunk, that's only 750 people. 750 sounds like a lot, until you figure that's less than the number of people Dragster puts through in an hour. So while those 750 are in line for Dragster, the rest of the park is devoid of drunks (as an example, obviously they aren't all in line for dragster). How that ruins the "family" atmosphere I don't know.

Secondly, when does family atmosphere mean it has to be for kids? Are there not adults in a family? Should the Frightzones and haunted houses be removed because they aren't family friendly?

Thirdly, I have NEVER seen anyone rip-roaring, screaming at the world, picking fights with everyone drunk at the park. If there ever were, I'm sure I'll see him removed as well because CP's security will be right on it. They've got some of the best security, you don't notice them until they are needed, which is how it should be.

Hey, Villainlover:

They sell beer at Geauga Lake, too.

(!!! I KNOW, RIGHT?)